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rocklee
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Huh, there are too many phones now, easy to get confused.
- The Viewty and Nokia N80 are both 3G phones and work well in Korea.
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This is simply not true.
If you have a Nokia N80 from another country. It will work here via roaming at roaming rates ($$$) from your home carrier, but you can't register and use it here as a regular phone. Also, all of the features of the N80 won't be available when roaming in another country.
Get your facts straight. |
"The 3G network began in Korea a year ago, and now we have 7 million customers (4.2 million by KTF and 3.3 million by SKT) who moved to 3G from 2G. WE can expect 15 million in 2008."
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"USIM unlocking
We are currently using CDMA for the 2G mobile network and it means SIM cards are not available in Korea as in the past (unlike GSM). Now, 3G mobile phones require a USIM card and this gives us a chance to swap or exchange our mobile with ease by simple USIM insert. But our service providers have locked the USIM card to void those exchanges till today (Mar 2, 2008).
Why? Each service provider has its own unique services developed from the 2G network which brings in their profits. Based on this, they have locked or removed the Wi-Fi features on most of the mobiles. Now, the Korean Government is mandating them to unlock the USIM cards by end of March.
So customers with SKT and KTF who take WCDMA technology as their 3G standard will have a chance to swap or exchange their mobile with family and friends. However, this will be available with limited services. If SKT and KTF customers exchange their phones, their SMS will not operate correctly. SMS is a just a small issue among others. Those problems have to be fixed, otherwise unlocking the USIM is meaningless."
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
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Huh, there are too many phones now, easy to get confused.
- The Viewty and Nokia N80 are both 3G phones and work well in Korea.
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This is simply not true.
If you have a Nokia N80 from another country. It will work here via roaming at roaming rates ($$$) from your home carrier, but you can't register and use it here as a regular phone. Also, all of the features of the N80 won't be available when roaming in another country.
Get your facts straight. |
"The 3G network began in Korea a year ago, and now we have 7 million customers (4.2 million by KTF and 3.3 million by SKT) who moved to 3G from 2G. WE can expect 15 million in 2008."
and :
"USIM unlocking
We are currently using CDMA for the 2G mobile network and it means SIM cards are not available in Korea as in the past (unlike GSM). Now, 3G mobile phones require a USIM card and this gives us a chance to swap or exchange our mobile with ease by simple USIM insert. But our service providers have locked the USIM card to void those exchanges till today (Mar 2, 2008).
Why? Each service provider has its own unique services developed from the 2G network which brings in their profits. Based on this, they have locked or removed the Wi-Fi features on most of the mobiles. Now, the Korean Government is mandating them to unlock the USIM cards by end of March.
So customers with SKT and KTF who take WCDMA technology as their 3G standard will have a chance to swap or exchange their mobile with family and friends. However, this will be available with limited services. If SKT and KTF customers exchange their phones, their SMS will not operate correctly. SMS is a just a small issue among others. Those problems have to be fixed, otherwise unlocking the USIM is meaningless."
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Can you you register and use a Nokia N80 with SKT or KTF?
NO. The swapping of USIM cards with other mobiles is only done with KOREAN PHONES.
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| DCJames wrote: |
| rocklee wrote: |
| DCJames wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
Huh, there are too many phones now, easy to get confused.
- The Viewty and Nokia N80 are both 3G phones and work well in Korea.
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This is simply not true.
If you have a Nokia N80 from another country. It will work here via roaming at roaming rates ($$$) from your home carrier, but you can't register and use it here as a regular phone. Also, all of the features of the N80 won't be available when roaming in another country.
Get your facts straight. |
"The 3G network began in Korea a year ago, and now we have 7 million customers (4.2 million by KTF and 3.3 million by SKT) who moved to 3G from 2G. WE can expect 15 million in 2008."
and :
"USIM unlocking
We are currently using CDMA for the 2G mobile network and it means SIM cards are not available in Korea as in the past (unlike GSM). Now, 3G mobile phones require a USIM card and this gives us a chance to swap or exchange our mobile with ease by simple USIM insert. But our service providers have locked the USIM card to void those exchanges till today (Mar 2, 2008).
Why? Each service provider has its own unique services developed from the 2G network which brings in their profits. Based on this, they have locked or removed the Wi-Fi features on most of the mobiles. Now, the Korean Government is mandating them to unlock the USIM cards by end of March.
So customers with SKT and KTF who take WCDMA technology as their 3G standard will have a chance to swap or exchange their mobile with family and friends. However, this will be available with limited services. If SKT and KTF customers exchange their phones, their SMS will not operate correctly. SMS is a just a small issue among others. Those problems have to be fixed, otherwise unlocking the USIM is meaningless."
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Can you you register and use a Nokia N80 with SKT or KTF?
NO. The swapping of USIM cards with other mobiles is only done with KOREAN PHONES.
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Geez I don't know, that article was written last March but ask someone who actually has one :
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| My old Nokia N80 that also works here (3G phone) |
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
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Wow I've never read so much complaint about the Viewty before. Daylight photos are good enough, its just the nightshots that aren't as good because of the lack of an Xenon flash.
I've read good things about the i900 Omnia in both the features and camera. |
He said available HERE. |
Wow that's surprising, a Korean phone not available in Korea :
http://blog.naver.com/handphone79/50033139513
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http://cafe.naver.com/omnia3g
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삼성전자 구미2사업장 애니콜연구소에 있는 아는분께 여쭤본 정보입니다.
햅틱2와 얼마전 살짝공개된 로모라는폰은 엄연히 다른폰이라네요.
햅틱2는 현재 햅틱에서 색상(매직실버)과 WVGA액정만 업그레이드된폰이랍니다.아직 확실한것은 아니지만 현재 햅틱폰의 문제점인 배터리커버의 기스문제때문에 햅틱2는 배터리덥개가 알루미늄으로 제조된다는군요.다음달에 SKT와 KTF로 출시예정이구요..어제 공개된 i900의 국내버전이 올8월~9월에 출시될 괴물폰입니다.
단지 해외용과 다른점은 i900은 뒷면은 햅틱과 유사하지만...국내용은 뷰티처럼 디카처럼 생겼고
500만화소 오토포커스,손떨림방지,DMB와 내장메모리는 500MB에 외장은 8GB까지 지원하고
아쉽게도 해외처럼 PDA기능은 없답니다;;;;액정은 WVGA액정에 풀브라우징지원이고 SKT,KTF로만 출시한다네요~더욱 중요한거는 이번에 국내괴물폰에 최초로B&O앰프기능을 넣을수도있다네요ㅡㅡㅋ출고가 80만원대할듯합니다;;ㅎㅎ |
Not surprisingly there are variations of the same phone.
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Where is THE OMNIA available in Korea NOW???? I want to go there and buy one.
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
| DCJames wrote: |
| rocklee wrote: |
| DCJames wrote: |
| orosee wrote: |
Huh, there are too many phones now, easy to get confused.
- The Viewty and Nokia N80 are both 3G phones and work well in Korea.
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This is simply not true.
If you have a Nokia N80 from another country. It will work here via roaming at roaming rates ($$$) from your home carrier, but you can't register and use it here as a regular phone. Also, all of the features of the N80 won't be available when roaming in another country.
Get your facts straight. |
"The 3G network began in Korea a year ago, and now we have 7 million customers (4.2 million by KTF and 3.3 million by SKT) who moved to 3G from 2G. WE can expect 15 million in 2008."
and :
"USIM unlocking
We are currently using CDMA for the 2G mobile network and it means SIM cards are not available in Korea as in the past (unlike GSM). Now, 3G mobile phones require a USIM card and this gives us a chance to swap or exchange our mobile with ease by simple USIM insert. But our service providers have locked the USIM card to void those exchanges till today (Mar 2, 2008).
Why? Each service provider has its own unique services developed from the 2G network which brings in their profits. Based on this, they have locked or removed the Wi-Fi features on most of the mobiles. Now, the Korean Government is mandating them to unlock the USIM cards by end of March.
So customers with SKT and KTF who take WCDMA technology as their 3G standard will have a chance to swap or exchange their mobile with family and friends. However, this will be available with limited services. If SKT and KTF customers exchange their phones, their SMS will not operate correctly. SMS is a just a small issue among others. Those problems have to be fixed, otherwise unlocking the USIM is meaningless."
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Can you you register and use a Nokia N80 with SKT or KTF?
NO. The swapping of USIM cards with other mobiles is only done with KOREAN PHONES.
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Geez I don't know, that article was written last March but ask someone who actually has one :
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| My old Nokia N80 that also works here (3G phone) |
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The person didn't mention whether he was using roaming from his overseas carrier or not. My point is you CAN'T USE the N80 with regular Korean carriers.
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orosee
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Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for getting your hopes up... it appears DCJames is right. I tried again and while I do get a connection to SK Telecom first, it will kick me out (Network Error followed by a SIM registration failed message) after the first attempt at dialing. I didn't try that before because I changed the cards back after I couldn't set up text messaging Iwhich is why I wanted to change the phones in the first place).
In brief, he's right, I was wrong (overly optimistic).
N80 works with a foreign card and roaming enabled. I'll have my office chase down SKT and see if there are ways to enable a foreign phone to work with the Korean USIM.
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| It works with a Korean USIM card, which is what I posted. I assumed that was what you had. SMS text messaging apparently doesn't work though. |
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orosee
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| I have 2 cards at the moment: Korean USIM from SK Telecom and SIM from AIS (Thailand). AIS card has roaming enabled and works here but text messaging does not. The SKT card does connect me first but then disconnects with the error I mentioned earlier. |
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DCJames
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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You do this ALOT.
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inthewild
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| I have 2 cards at the moment: Korean USIM from SK Telecom and SIM from AIS (Thailand). AIS card has roaming enabled and works here but text messaging does not. The SKT card does connect me first but then disconnects with the error I mentioned earlier. |
That's really strange. My friend has a USIM card and an N95 and somehow got his to work.  |
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DCJames
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
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| I have 2 cards at the moment: Korean USIM from SK Telecom and SIM from AIS (Thailand). AIS card has roaming enabled and works here but text messaging does not. The SKT card does connect me first but then disconnects with the error I mentioned earlier. |
That's really strange. My friend has a USIM card and an N95 and somehow got his to work. |
He had a N95 and was roaming on his home country's carrier.
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tehdee
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:21 am Post subject: |
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ive tried all three carriers, all three usims, the whole nine...
my n95 is simply relegated to collecting dust in my top drawer for the next 10 months. and it pains me.
if anyone hears otherwise, please post proof asap. |
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DCJames
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| DCJames wrote: |
| rocklee wrote: |
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Wow I've never read so much complaint about the Viewty before. Daylight photos are good enough, its just the nightshots that aren't as good because of the lack of an Xenon flash.
I've read good things about the i900 Omnia in both the features and camera. |
He said available HERE. |
Wow that's surprising, a Korean phone not available in Korea :
http://blog.naver.com/handphone79/50033139513
and
http://cafe.naver.com/omnia3g
and :
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삼성전자 구미2사업장 애니콜연구소에 있는 아는분께 여쭤본 정보입니다.
햅틱2와 얼마전 살짝공개된 로모라는폰은 엄연히 다른폰이라네요.
햅틱2는 현재 햅틱에서 색상(매직실버)과 WVGA액정만 업그레이드된폰이랍니다.아직 확실한것은 아니지만 현재 햅틱폰의 문제점인 배터리커버의 기스문제때문에 햅틱2는 배터리덥개가 알루미늄으로 제조된다는군요.다음달에 SKT와 KTF로 출시예정이구요..어제 공개된 i900의 국내버전이 올8월~9월에 출시될 괴물폰입니다.
단지 해외용과 다른점은 i900은 뒷면은 햅틱과 유사하지만...국내용은 뷰티처럼 디카처럼 생겼고
500만화소 오토포커스,손떨림방지,DMB와 내장메모리는 500MB에 외장은 8GB까지 지원하고
아쉽게도 해외처럼 PDA기능은 없답니다;;;;액정은 WVGA액정에 풀브라우징지원이고 SKT,KTF로만 출시한다네요~더욱 중요한거는 이번에 국내괴물폰에 최초로B&O앰프기능을 넣을수도있다네요ㅡㅡㅋ출고가 80만원대할듯합니다;;ㅎㅎ |
Not surprisingly there are variations of the same phone.
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Where is THE OMNIA available in Korea NOW???? I want to go there and buy one. |
I'm STILL waiting... |
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rocklee
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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It costs 1,118,810 won.
Case closed. |
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