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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
Hitch is one of my heroes - an atheist who hates the left.
Cancer of the oesophagus has low 5 year survival rates, if I recall, unfortunately. |
Yes, my dad went that way. Quite awful. Sorry for poor Hitch. Perhaps he should have worried less about muslims and more about his cigarette habit. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:29 am Post subject: |
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There is an almost child-like sense of right and wrong permeating all of his polemics.
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Therefore, it is unsurprising he has so many supporters on this board. |
lols. Quite. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| On the other hand wrote: |
There is an almost child-like sense of right and wrong permeating all of his polemics.
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Therefore, it is unsurprising he has so many supporters on this board. |
lols. Quite. |
For the record, I deliberately chose the word "child-like", as opposed to "childish", because I don't think that type of naive moral compass is an entirely unadmirable quality, however much I may disagree with the directions in which it seems to have pointed Hitchens in the last few years.
And say what you will about the guy, he does have a talent for placing his polemics front and centre in some of the most definining social and political issues of our day. Plus, he has an impressive ability to address himself to a variety of audiences across the middle-to-high brows of the cultural spectrum. |
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InOtherWords
Joined: 12 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I hope to meet him before it's too late. He's my hero.
I think it's fine that he doesn't want deists to completely die out, I understand his wanting to argue with them.
And yes, that cancer update of his on vanity fair bummed me out... |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Love him or loath him, he is great in debate, and rarely holds back with religious figures. Sure, compared to Dawkins he is less respectful, but he savages his often less worthwhile opponents. Just watch him decimate Galloway and Al Sharpton; it's a joy to watch. He is more than just bark, as there is genuinely an intellect to call upon on. I hope he recovers, needless to say. |
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Seoulmann
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: |
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pompous,self centered, arrogant, arm chair professor who is an alcoholic.
much prefer Richard Dawkins.
Hitchens just came across to conceited and arrogant for my liking. interesting fellow but sometimes he would just talk down to people like a belligerent drunk. emmm maybe he was drunk at the time hahaha
anyway.. dying is a sad end to life. |
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recessiontime

Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:35 am Post subject: |
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metastasized cancer that's gotten into his lymph node?
Honestly it doesn't sound good. |
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Illysook
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| Has he ever tried to debate Timothy Keller? |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Seoulmann wrote: |
pompous,self centered, arrogant, arm chair professor who is an alcoholic.
much prefer Richard Dawkins. |
Yes, different styles but same pursuit. I'm grateful to have been exposed to both. I liked his book How Religion Poisons Everything. |
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TECO

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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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recessiontime

Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| I find it really weird that a guy with not much time left is going to interviews. I would rather spend time with my family before I die. |
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northway
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| I find it really weird that a guy with not much time left is going to interviews. I would rather spend time with my family before I die. |
From what I gather of Hitchens, he gets a lot more pleasure out of having attention given to him by adulating audiences than he does from something as mundane as family. |
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megandadam
Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Location: toronto, canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:54 am Post subject: |
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i don't know if you could really say his defining thesis is about the non-existence of god. i think that's a large part of who he is, what he believes in but to only give that to him is a bit much.
and i like others have had a hard time reconciling him (somewhat impossible) to his support for the war but he is also a figure who reminds me of, maybe a hemingway type - a person, an intellectual who is not opposed to war. i'm not opposed to war but i do oppose some types of war if they don't meet criteria.
i guess i feel this is an age when people are trying their best to be culturally relativist and hitchens doesn't seem to be really trying that.
does he have his faults? of course. but i think that's fine. and i think the world is "better" for having him out there.
and without deists, one could fall too easily into a false idolship. you need some of them around or it's really time to be afraid. |
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