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legrande
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| English Matt wrote: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
The German economy is all but doomed to collapse faster than a lawn chair with Rosie O'Donnell on it, thus its energy policy matters little.
�Germany�s working-age population is likely to decrease 30 per cent over the next few decades,� says Steffen Kr�hnert of the Berlin Institute for Population Development. �Rural areas will see a massive population decline and some villages will simply disappear�Germany will become a weak economic power in the future.�
You look at those old speeches of der F�hrer roaring on about Germany�s need for �lebensraum.� Few people have ever needed it less.
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Unless immigrants come in to make up the numbers. |
Which they are and in large numbers.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1629987.php/Germany-experiences-first-increase-in-migration-in-five-years
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12362853
The economy grew by 3.6% last year (best year since reunification) and is expected to grow by 2.5-2.6% this year.
Unemployment in Germany, and in particular Berlin and the eastern Bundesl�nder is decreasing (again for the first time since reunification). It now stands at 6.1% according to the ILO.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d9d7a52e-5b88-11e0-b965-00144feab49a.html#axzz1IKAoANm6
http://www.thelocal.de/money/20100601-27567.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11838365
Inflation is running at 2.1% as opposed to the 4.4% in the UK.
The cost of living here is low, the salaries are high, there are plenty of jobs, lots of people moving here at the moment, the economy is surging ahead, 90% of the demand that is pushing the conomy forward is coming from domestic demand, full employment is once again something that people are talking about here. Plenty of people here are happy that the govt. has caved to popular opinion (and there was strong opposition to the continuation of these nuclear power stations way before Fukushima) and will be investing in and switching to renewable energy sources sooner than planned. Sorry Sergio, but I live here, you don't, and you have no idea what you are talking about. |
Hey, good to see there's some country doing okay with its head screwed on straight. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Well if Portugal and Spain go under forget those plans. The previous German chancellor hooked Germany on Russian natural gas. He was apparently on the Russian payroll since he took a plum position with Gazprom after he left office. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Figures.... :shock:
I knew you were Pro-Nazi.. |
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legrande
Joined: 23 Nov 2010
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| Follow the money in Germany and it will lead to the Russian oil firms. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking of Crazy Greenies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeNDSeknn_c&feature=player_embedded
This guy gets paid $170,000 annum be the Australian Government to spout this socialist Gaia rubbish.
It is however probably $170,000 well spent, as more people hear alarmists like Flim Flan Flannery talk their garbage, the more people are turning their backs AGW and "settled science" BS. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
| Follow the money in Germany and it will lead to the Russian oil firms. |
I doubt it.
(Not really, I just want you to show your work) |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry Kuros don't have any work. Just my speculation. Seems likely though since Russia sells petroleum and needs the German market, nuclear power would cost the Russian a share of the market. So they would oppose nuclear power in Germany. Shroeder made a big deal with the Russians and then cashed in with a job working for them . The free market at work. It's not pretty. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| 30% decline in working age population? Sounds like the unemployed of the former East Germany no longer need worry! |
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English Matt
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| 30% decline in working age population? Sounds like the unemployed of the former East Germany no longer need worry! |
Exactly, a decline in the working age population isn't necessarily a bad thing when you have such high levels of unemployment in certain areas of the country. The real barrier to future economic growth is not having enough skilled workers, not just warm bodies able to do any kind of work. Germany has had this problem for a while now, but with the economic problems in countries such as Spain large numbers of skilled workers are moving from those countries to Germany. |
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English Matt
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
| Sorry Kuros don't have any work. Just my speculation. Seems likely though since Russia sells petroleum and needs the German market, nuclear power would cost the Russian a share of the market. So they would oppose nuclear power in Germany. Shroeder made a big deal with the Russians and then cashed in with a job working for them . The free market at work. It's not pretty. |
So solar panels, wind farms and the like require petroleum? Amazing. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| English Matt wrote: |
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| Sorry Kuros don't have any work. Just my speculation. Seems likely though since Russia sells petroleum and needs the German market, nuclear power would cost the Russian a share of the market. So they would oppose nuclear power in Germany. Shroeder made a big deal with the Russians and then cashed in with a job working for them . The free market at work. It's not pretty. |
So solar panels, wind farms and the like require petroleum? Amazing. |
It takes much energy and resources to create them. Did you think they grew on trees?
Wind farms are the biggest waste of money there is. Totally worthless investment, they don't even generate electricity half the time, they take up obscene amounts of space (looking very ugly to boot) and kill off millions of birds. |
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English Matt
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
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| Sorry Kuros don't have any work. Just my speculation. Seems likely though since Russia sells petroleum and needs the German market, nuclear power would cost the Russian a share of the market. So they would oppose nuclear power in Germany. Shroeder made a big deal with the Russians and then cashed in with a job working for them . The free market at work. It's not pretty. |
So solar panels, wind farms and the like require petroleum? Amazing. |
It takes much energy and resources to create them. Did you think they grew on trees?
Wind farms are the biggest waste of money there is. Totally worthless investment, they don't even generate electricity half the time, they take up obscene amounts of space (looking very ugly to boot) and kill off millions of birds. |
And nuclear power stations grow on trees? |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| English Matt wrote: |
| visitorq wrote: |
| English Matt wrote: |
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| Sorry Kuros don't have any work. Just my speculation. Seems likely though since Russia sells petroleum and needs the German market, nuclear power would cost the Russian a share of the market. So they would oppose nuclear power in Germany. Shroeder made a big deal with the Russians and then cashed in with a job working for them . The free market at work. It's not pretty. |
So solar panels, wind farms and the like require petroleum? Amazing. |
It takes much energy and resources to create them. Did you think they grew on trees?
Wind farms are the biggest waste of money there is. Totally worthless investment, they don't even generate electricity half the time, they take up obscene amounts of space (looking very ugly to boot) and kill off millions of birds. |
And nuclear power stations grow on trees? |
Corporations appear to think they are economically viable. Can the same be said for your beloved wind and solar farms without the massive public subsidies. Also I think you find visitorq is not a supporter of nuclear. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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English Matt is having a bad Dave's week, but c'mon - we've all been there at one point, no?
(Maybe not, but still.) |
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