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Smokers at Seoul squares to be fined 100,000 won
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Smoking should be banned in all public places, and strictly enforced.


Also eating, drinking from water bottles, talking, and reading newspapers.


No, just the smoking. The four mentioned above have no negative impact on my health.


Ok I'll bite. Looks like its gonna be a very rare friday night at home tonight.

How about cars? Should they also be banned? They have a negative impact on the public's health.


One can claim that anything and everything has a negative impact on health.

Smoking should be banned in all public places, and enforced, as well as screaming fire in a public theater.

Ban the stench!
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yeti08



Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Location: Anyang - Pyeongchon

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
yeti08 wrote:
tiger fancini wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Smoking should be banned in all public places, and strictly enforced.


Also eating, drinking from water bottles, talking, and reading newspapers.


No, just the smoking. The four mentioned above have no negative impact on my health.


Ok I'll bite. Looks like its gonna be a very rare friday night at home tonight.

How about cars? Should they also be banned? They have a negative impact on the public's health.


Cars acquire a task, what does smoking do? Right it helps people relax, something they can do away from others.


Cars can be replaced - alternatives can be used. Why not use them? Right, it's too inconvenient.


Preaching to the choir. I don't own a car or motorcycle here. I walk more often than riding buses or trains.

A law that should go into effect immediately should be no motorcycles or scooters on sidewalks.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeti08 wrote:
tiger fancini wrote:
yeti08 wrote:
tiger fancini wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Smoking should be banned in all public places, and strictly enforced.


Also eating, drinking from water bottles, talking, and reading newspapers.


No, just the smoking. The four mentioned above have no negative impact on my health.


Ok I'll bite. Looks like its gonna be a very rare friday night at home tonight.

How about cars? Should they also be banned? They have a negative impact on the public's health.


Cars acquire a task, what does smoking do? Right it helps people relax, something they can do away from others.


Cars can be replaced - alternatives can be used. Why not use them? Right, it's too inconvenient.


Preaching to the choir. I don't own a car or motorcycle here. I walk more often than riding buses or trains.

A law that should go into effect immediately should be no motorcycles or scooters on sidewalks.


I agree.

Same here, I don't own a motor-vehicle. I walk when/where the distance is reasonable. Other times, I take the subway or a bus to avoid taking taxis when possible.

Nothing wrong with smokers taking their habits to a private location.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankhenry wrote:

Same here, I don't own a motor-vehicle. I walk when/where the distance is reasonable. Other times, I take the subway or a bus to avoid taking taxis when possible.

Nothing wrong with smokers taking their habits to a private location.


I take my smoking to a private location when it's possible, and reasonable for me to do so.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride a bike, walk, and take the bus or subway. I only take taxis when necessary, which isn't often. I'm all for an alternative that doesn't pollute the air.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
frankhenry wrote:

Same here, I don't own a motor-vehicle. I walk when/where the distance is reasonable. Other times, I take the subway or a bus to avoid taking taxis when possible.

Nothing wrong with smokers taking their habits to a private location.


I take my smoking to a private location when it's possible, and reasonable for me to do so.


Fair enough.

I don't have such a problem with persons who make an effort to consider nonsmokers. However, when I'm standing in line outside a movie theater, restaurant, or such, holding my young daughter in my arms, and someone lights a cigarette and blows smoke directly on us, I find it to be very inconsiderate.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1.

Korea has made an unbeliever of me.

tatertot wrote:
I'd like to echo the "I'll believe it when I see it" sentiment that has already been expressed in this thread. It would be nice, though...
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see a car parked in my apartment stairwell stinking up the stairwell to the elevator, I don't see cars all parked outside door ways to enter and exit buildings, having to walk into a smoke bombs and start choking to death.

I personally don't feel cars pollute my air like tobacco does. I don't sit right next to the exhaust pipe of a car.. who does!!! but standing anywhere near a smoker and you feel his smoke..
comparing cars to tobacco is stupid...
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



Joined: 31 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a start. Cigarettes are nasty, nasty things and should be outlawed. No reason for people to smoke. It is nasty, bad for your health and detrimental to the environment. It serves no good purpose. It should be eradicated. Search and destroy, I say.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A man smoking in the open air does no harm to other people. Maybe Seoul should look at Canada: No smoking within 3 meters of any business door.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
I don't see a car parked in my apartment stairwell stinking up the stairwell to the elevator, I don't see cars all parked outside door ways to enter and exit buildings, having to walk into a smoke bombs and start choking to death.

I personally don't feel cars pollute my air like tobacco does. I don't sit right next to the exhaust pipe of a car.. who does!!! but standing anywhere near a smoker and you feel his smoke..
comparing cars to tobacco is stupid...


crazy talk....would you rather be in a room with a smoker or a running car? car fumes are way more lethal than cigarette smoke. How many cars in a metropolis like seoul? 6 million? every minute of every day u are breathing in the exhaust fumes of millions of cars. Doesnt matter where u are. It permeates the air of the whole city.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Koreadays wrote:
I don't see a car parked in my apartment stairwell stinking up the stairwell to the elevator, I don't see cars all parked outside door ways to enter and exit buildings, having to walk into a smoke bombs and start choking to death.

I personally don't feel cars pollute my air like tobacco does. I don't sit right next to the exhaust pipe of a car.. who does!!! but standing anywhere near a smoker and you feel his smoke..
comparing cars to tobacco is stupid...


crazy talk....would you rather be in a room with a smoker or a running car? car fumes are way more lethal than cigarette smoke. How many cars in a metropolis like seoul? 6 million? every minute of every day u are breathing in the exhaust fumes of millions of cars. Doesnt matter where u are. It permeates the air of the whole city.


like I said, you don't park your nose next to a car exhaust pipe do you?
cars don't fire out smoke from the exhaust .. you stand next to a guy smoking a cigarette and then stand next to a car see what is worse.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
A man smoking in the open air does no harm to other people. Maybe Seoul should look at Canada: No smoking within 3 meters of any business door.


Yes it does.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankhenry wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
A man smoking in the open air does no harm to other people. Maybe Seoul should look at Canada: No smoking within 3 meters of any business door.


Yes it does.


A man smoking on his own in the open air does no harm to you. If you approach him to inhale the smoke, then you chose to do that.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
frankhenry wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
A man smoking in the open air does no harm to other people. Maybe Seoul should look at Canada: No smoking within 3 meters of any business door.


Yes it does.


A man smoking on his own in the open air does no harm to you. If you approach him to inhale the smoke, then you chose to do that.


The 999 men smoking as they walk by me do me harm.
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