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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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If they weren't adults, I'd say they were having a lot of fun seeing you get upset about their pronunciation. Maybe, that is all it is. Have you been particularly arrogant to them? You seem to have a very adversarial relationship with your students.
If you have a more friendly, relaxed environment with adult students, they are more likely to listen to you, even if you are wrong, though you certainly aren't on this.
Personally, I would move on. Pushing the issue is only going to make them lose face.
Good luck with that! |
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Marc W
Joined: 04 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Students who think your teaching is wrong... |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Has anybody had this problem? |
LOL!!
Yes, but as a student not as a teacher. And I very very much recognize it. Well as a student I never really expected my teacher to know everything anyway. May-be as a teacher you could be happy that a student is critical and thinks for him or herself. May-be you can just say that (English) language is not always logical. That it does not follow exact rules, like exact science. And that you can understand what the student thinks, but in this case there is an exception. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Explain that it is difficult to give the vowel sound its full value without altering the stress pattern of the word, and that vowels in non-stressed syllables are often reduced, to a schwa sound or some sound approximating to a schwa.
They will bow in confusion before your apparent godly omniscience. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| as others have mentioned use the internet. or, a smartphone. maybe the students own smartphone? the ybm iphone dictionary definitely shows the phonetic difference and also provides the audio... |
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bbunce
Joined: 28 Sep 2011
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| Tell them they are write because you don't want to upset them or the parents even though it is retarded. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| bbunce wrote: |
| Tell them they are write because you don't want to upset them or the parents even though it is retarded. |
Was this on purpose?
As others say, I would have mentioned the schwa and word stress. But dictionaries are a great idea. Might not have thought of it. |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| bbunce wrote: |
| Tell them they are write because you don't want to upset them or the parents even though it is retarded. |
Did you really mean wuh-ri-tae instead of ri-guh-huh-tuh?
At least "correct" is correct.... |
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theevilgenius
Joined: 10 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Have you given other examples to reinforce your argument with them e.g. bow and bow, row and row, Polish and polish. |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
Get some Korean words then.
For example "읽다", to read. It is spelled ilkda, but you don't say the "k". Make them explain why you don't say "ilk da". |
Um. You don't actually speak Korean do you?
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Eh, let them know they are free to pronounce the English language anyhow they want.
But that people in X part of the world pronounce it like this.
Then move on. |
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Squire

Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
Have they still not figured out, after 10 years of learning English probably that the letter "O" is the most versatile vowel in the alphabet? It can sound like an 'E' as in doctor. It can sound like an 'A' as in doctor, it can sound like 우, as in lose, AND it has its own sound as in open.
I think you had to point this out from the beginning though, teacher. |
My students sometimes laugh because I don't say dactor, besketball and seturday |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Good lord. Tell me people aren't pronouncing doctor as though it's dactor. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought they called it Dak-Tuh |
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jondepoer
Joined: 02 May 2010
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| The only Korean who knows more English than you is your half-literate co-teacher. Proven fact. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| Just ignore them and think of the money. |
We have the correct answer. |
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