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busanliving



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open your eyes
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busanliving wrote:
Open your eyes


They are. Link, or it didn't happen.
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busanliving



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, yeah, everything is written on the Internet, how stupid of me. Aside from the fact epik won't tell the teachers they reject the reason.

I know of 8 very qualified and experienced teachers rejected by epik, the people working in the region in question are all young, no experience, no qualifications, do the math. Most of these same 8 people are working in public schools after being hired directly.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busanliving wrote:
Right, yeah, everything is written on the Internet, how stupid of me. Aside from the fact epik won't tell the teachers they reject the reason.

I know of 8 very qualified and experienced teachers rejected by epik, the people working in the region in question are all young, no experience, no qualifications, do the math. Most of these same 8 people are working in public schools after being hired directly.


So you know of 8 people out of the 30,000 odd teachers on E-2 visas (to say nothing of the F-series visa people who teach).

That's hardly a compelling statistic to say the least.
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busanliving



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, argue away, I don't mind, it actually has zero effect on me.
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wallythewhale



Joined: 12 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gone2korea.com/public-school-korea/epik/salaries.html

That wasn't so hard with a little help from google.

The pay is NOT significantly different then from someone without a BS in Education (give or take 100,000).

OP, with your qualifications, I would try Hong Kong's NET scheme...better pay (although higher living standards) and besides work experience, you have what they desire.

No need to waste feelings/frustrations with recruiters. If one fails, on to the next. Remember, they are losing you, not the other way around.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

busanliving wrote:
Right, yeah, everything is written on the Internet, how stupid of me..


Yeah I hate that argument ploy too. I mean when they demand a link for something that is obvious.

There is such a thing as common sense. Common knowledge. And you don't need stats for that, just a brain.
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recruiters are interchangeable, one is no better than the other. Use them, don't let them use you.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
busanliving wrote:
Right, yeah, everything is written on the Internet, how stupid of me..


Yeah I hate that argument ploy too. I mean when they demand a link for something that is obvious.

There is such a thing as common sense. Common knowledge. And you don't need stats for that, just a brain.


Yes. And use of common sense/knowledge and brain would lead one to the conclusion that making sweeping statements based on one's individual experience is pretty foolish to say the least.
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Ballerina2012



Joined: 17 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the worst part is that the recruiter still posts on here that there are "hundreds" of job available.. I am a REJECT! lol
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Skipperoo



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your resume written in crayon or something? I can't imagine a run-of-the-mill recruiter flatout rejecting anyone.
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Ballerina2012



Joined: 17 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL.. No, IDK.. I am totally at a loss. I have applied to quite a few others so we'll see.. The recruiter is one of the bigger ones too..?? oh well.
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TheGord



Joined: 20 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why take it so personal?

Just like I don't end up working with many recruiters that want to place me, I don't expect every recruiter to want to work with me.

Apply to lots of places and you'll figure out what your value is.
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TheGord



Joined: 20 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or try the public schools. Sometimes hogwons and public are looking for different things.
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John Junior



Joined: 31 Jan 2012
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: none Reply with quote

Some things never change, the usual idiots still inhabit Dave's Cafe. This is after being one of the first native speakers to educate in S.Korea during the high speed recruitment drive of NETS in early 2000. Ballerina: Words of advice, persist and you will get a job. Keep searching you will find a job. I did and I am past the 35 years of age level. But I am a registered teacher in my home country so that helped me. Keep searching and you will get a job. Ignore the 20 something idiots on Daves. The best of luck to you and keep your chin up, you will find a job.
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