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Is Korean University a Free Ride?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me expand on my earlier answer.

I have some students who study hard and study a lot because they want to get As.

I have some students (remarkably few this semester) who do nearly nothing because a pass is good enough and it's very difficult ot fail.
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Len8



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard that it's anything but a free ride for foreigners studying in Korean universities. the exceptions of course would be Yonsei and the one or two others offering special graduate programs for foreigeners and Koreans.

Many Korean universities blatantly discriminate agianst foreigeners pursuing higher degrees, to the point where they fail them for petty reasons other than the quality of their work.

Japan I have heard is the same. Rumour has it that many of the Korean Professors at Korean universities who studied in Japan have countless horror stories of what they had to go through.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
I had a student show up last week for the first time. That was October 7th. Class began on August 30th. He will pass. They all pass.


Had the same situation, more than once I should add.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hocbas wrote:


Read my whole post:

"Granted some do study"

Let me guess...either they are Christian or at a top University. Nobody fails University here...do you think that is normal?? If they are such a supergenius country where everyone who enters Univ. graduates, shouldn't they be on the verge of world dominance??


Calm down chap....

I did read your whole post..You say 'some study', it just seems odd that every student i know seems to be in the minority that do study a lot.

Not especially Christian, and from several different universities..

I didnt say anything about this country being supergenious :shrug: just that the uni students do a lot of work....They do far more work than british students for example.

Im sure a lot of students do get through regardless of their study patterns but from what ive seen, uni students here do a lot of study...The question is obviously whether they need to or not.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parents were upset to hear television reports that said most high school students in this country receive an A grade. Most high schools gave A's to students, regardless of their ability, to help them gain admission to universities. Because of this common practice, some universities ignored high school records when selecting prospective students and applied self-administered criteria, going against policies laid down by the Ministry of Education. Parents who had not been aware of this fact were surprised to learn about it through television news reports.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200410/200410120031.html
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's our job to teach English, period. That's what i do (with every iota of creativity i can muster).

if they don't learn (5-10%), i can rest assured it's not my fault.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No correlation, they say, between grades and test scores
Admissions directors of ten universities in the Seoul area threatened yesterday to publish information on what they called the serious problem of inflated high school grades.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200410/12/200410122207152379900090409041.html
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