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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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JZer wrote: |
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But the real answer as to why I think a man should always pay for a first date is threefold: a) that's what my father taught me, b) that's what my stepfather taught me, c) that's what my gay male friends taught me. |
Yeah, did your father also tell you not to have s e x until you were married? Do you always listen to your father? |
Actually, you will never in your life believe this, BUT my father told me that if I didn't have sex before I was 16 or smoke or drink before I was 18, when I turned 18 years old I'd get a lifetime supply of weed. He also told me I should sell weed on my college campus to make money.
My father is one of the most liberal people you'll ever meet.
So....no, he didn't tell me not to have s e x.
My mother, meanwhile, is a nurse and said, "I don't want you to have sex while you're in high school, but I'm not stupid, so please use protection." Again, she never told me to wait until marriage.
Maybe coming from a non-religious family has something to do with it.
No, I don't always listen to my father; I never sold pot on campus. However, since (as I've already said multiple times) I'm only talking about paying for sure for the first date, and since I share as soon as we're exclusive, I really don't understand what the B F'in deal is.
As for the side comments people are making about *beep* size...what is up with you men? The only men I've ever met who were concerned about other men's *beep* size were either gay or really tiny themselves. 
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bejarano-korea

Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: |
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kermo wrote: |
Thanks for reminding me, Desperation.
A gay friend asked me why I never seem to make dessert when he comes over (this isn't true-- he knows my cheesecake is The Shiznit because he's tasted it). I told him it's because he doesn't put out.
I appreciate the request, D, but I've already got a full roster. |
If you are bringing any of the cheescake around Daegu way around September time, let me in on some of it... and I may put out!
Blimey, I'm easy to impress if it is home made cheesecake!  |
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chasmmi
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Actually thinking about this from the Korean aspect there is a set pattern to how any sort of meeting should work and I may guess it could extend to dating.
Now most people at least here mention of the whole fighting over the bill thing that goes on here and my experiences have shown it is very hard to pay for stuff (not impossible, just hard) when Koreans are around as they insist or get sneaky and pay when you aren't looking or get the credit card in first and refuse your cash etc.
However even though there is this fight in general it boils down to the inviter paying I would say maybe 80-90% of the time. I think this also aids the social aspect of things by encouring the guest this time to be the inviter the next time.
Therefore if this logic applies to dates, then if you have asked the girl to go to dinner with you then Korean eating out culture dictates that you should win the fight over the bill. If she puts up a fight it may well be for show as its the done thing most of the time (if you want to be safe then tell her to take you out somewhere next time, therefore putting the paying onus on her and making her happy).
Going dutch may be a fine system elsewhere but in Korea it can be awkward whether you are with a girlfriend, workfriend or drunk guy off the street. YEs more young people are going Dutch these days but in generl I would advise that unless you are good friends with the person in question (or if there are like 6 of you) then if you invite then you pay, regardless of if it is a date or not. If anything it could show you are down with Korean culture, or at least that you are trying to be.
Please note I am not Korean and have only been here 11 months so I may have got this oh so wrong. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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bejarano-korea wrote: |
kermo wrote: |
Thanks for reminding me, Desperation.
A gay friend asked me why I never seem to make dessert when he comes over (this isn't true-- he knows my cheesecake is The Shiznit because he's tasted it). I told him it's because he doesn't put out.
I appreciate the request, D, but I've already got a full roster. |
If you are bringing any of the cheescake around Daegu way around September time, let me in on some of it... and I may put out!
Blimey, I'm easy to impress if it is home made cheesecake!  |
How utterly romantic. |
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bejarano-korea

Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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kermo wrote: |
bejarano-korea wrote: |
kermo wrote: |
Thanks for reminding me, Desperation.
A gay friend asked me why I never seem to make dessert when he comes over (this isn't true-- he knows my cheesecake is The Shiznit because he's tasted it). I told him it's because he doesn't put out.
I appreciate the request, D, but I've already got a full roster. |
If you are bringing any of the cheescake around Daegu way around September time, let me in on some of it... and I may put out!
Blimey, I'm easy to impress if it is home made cheesecake!  |
How utterly romantic. |
I can do romance! Depends how good the cheescake is though...  |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Atavistic wrote: |
As for the side comments people are making about *beep* size...what is up with you men? The only men I've ever met who were concerned about other men's *beep* size were either gay or really tiny themselves.  |
Exactly.....if a man's lacking in a certain area he's more likely to want to pay for everything as a form of compensation. This is especially true for men with small dicks and lots of money.
This is what another female told me so don't kill the messenger.
I don't mind treating out a girl from time to time, but I will not, I repeat not be a little bitch and pay for everything.
And that's what a man who pays for everything is. A little bitch with no balls.
Plus I don't know how a man can truely respect a women if she constantly accept his payment for things without making a little effort to contribute her part.
I know I couldn't.
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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desperation wrote: |
[ You know it ALL and spend hour after hour online making sure you rape the rest of us into being your audience. . |
You have been here for less than 3 months and have 281 posts...just over 3 posts per day
CC has been here for more then 25 months and has 1082 posts...less than 1.5 posts per day.
I wouldn't be accusing CC of spending hour after hour online. Assuming you keep up your rate of posting, by the time you spend 25 months here you will have just under 2300 posts (more than double CC's)
Now there's nothing wrong with having a high post per day rating...but at less than 1.5 posts a day does not equal hours and hours spent online.
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
As for the side comments people are making about *beep* size...what is up with you men? The only men I've ever met who were concerned about other men's *beep* size were either gay or really tiny themselves.  |
Exactly.....if a man's lacking in a certain area he's more likely to want to pay for everything as a form of compensation. This is especially true for men with small *beep* and lots of money.. |
Exactly? And then you go off and talk about size? Did you even read what I wrote? |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Atavistic wrote: |
endo wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
As for the side comments people are making about *beep* size...what is up with you men? The only men I've ever met who were concerned about other men's *beep* size were either gay or really tiny themselves.  |
Exactly.....if a man's lacking in a certain area he's more likely to want to pay for everything as a form of compensation. This is especially true for men with small *beep* and lots of money.. |
Exactly? And then you go off and talk about size? Did you even read what I wrote? |
I read your comment and it was very cute.
Please.....all men....gay, straight, large, small, and everywhere in between are obsessed with their size.
Try me again sweet heart. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
endo wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
As for the side comments people are making about *beep* size...what is up with you men? The only men I've ever met who were concerned about other men's *beep* size were either gay or really tiny themselves.  |
Exactly.....if a man's lacking in a certain area he's more likely to want to pay for everything as a form of compensation. This is especially true for men with small *beep* and lots of money.. |
Exactly? And then you go off and talk about size? Did you even read what I wrote? |
I read your comment and it was very cute.
Please.....all men....gay, straight, large, small, and everywhere in between are obsessed with their size.
Try me again sweet heart. |
I'm not your sweetheart.
I know all men are obsessed with themselves. But WHY are they obsessed with each OTHER? Cause they're gay or small. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Atavistic wrote: |
endo wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
endo wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
As for the side comments people are making about *beep* size...what is up with you men? The only men I've ever met who were concerned about other men's *beep* size were either gay or really tiny themselves.  |
Exactly.....if a man's lacking in a certain area he's more likely to want to pay for everything as a form of compensation. This is especially true for men with small *beep* and lots of money.. |
Exactly? And then you go off and talk about size? Did you even read what I wrote? |
I read your comment and it was very cute.
Please.....all men....gay, straight, large, small, and everywhere in between are obsessed with their size.
Try me again sweet heart. |
I'm not your sweetheart.
I know all men are obsessed with themselves. But WHY are they obsessed with each OTHER? Cause they're gay or small. |
Yeah keep telling yourself that cause you don't have a clue.
Why are other women obsessed with another woman's breasts or other body features? Are they gay or lacking in other areas?
Perhaps I read a little too much Freud in University, but I truely feel that with all humans, their sexuality plays an enornmous (and often unrecognized) role in their everyday actions.
You simply can't see this and as a result resort to your small and cute ways of retorting someone.
Try me again. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Anyways, I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore or why we started in the first place.
We're likely arguing the same point, but are having a bit of a stressful day and as a result can't see the stupidity in it.
peace. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
Why are other women obsessed with another woman's *beep* or other body features? Are they gay or lacking in other areas? |
Well, I don't recall ever commenting on any part of a woman on these board. And I certainly never said something like "woman A does B because she has small C." Which is what men say all the time.
But I suspect your stress/arguing the same thing point is correct. |
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tigerbluekitty
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
tigerbluekitty wrote: |
If the guy's a loser, he's not gettin' any love, AND he must pay for everything.
If the guy has potential, he must pay for everything also.
The only time I pay for a guy is if I think of him as a little brother. Awww! Cute little brother. Little brothers are meant to be spoiled! *pinchy cheeks* ^^ |
Just curious, what's the minimum price for your services? I mean, assuming the guy "has potential", what is the minimum amount of cash you will you expect him to spend on you before he "gets any"?
Just give us a round figure. |
Well in the end, most men get nothing. Ever heard of the female player? ^^
Yep yep yep! That's the way to do things!
BTW, I'm a sexless robot who's addicted to my Playstation 3, my only true love and affection, and it gets all the sex!!  |
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tigerbluekitty
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: |
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seoulshock wrote: |
Were you working the room bangs in Koreatown in Los Angeles? Did you also make a lot of money working in hostess clubs in Japan?
Anyway, how about 70,000 KRW for 30 min. of fun? I think that's the going rate at Miari. |
Koreantown?? EWWW!!
Nah, to be honest, I think men are too focused on sex. There's more to life than mating or finding the right mate.
Look beyond little grasshopper, there is a Playstation 3 waiting for you, if you would only go out and buy one. GO METAL GEAR SOLID 4!! KICK @$$ PARTAY!!! PARTAY!!  |
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