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Rapacious Mr. Batstove
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola
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There is a God. He is not some amorphous power he wound up the world and now stands back to watch and see what people will do. He is Our Father in Heaven. I believe. Can I prove it by objective means? Likely not, although a universe as beautiful and diverse as the one we have speaks loudly of someone who cares.
Can I prove it subectively, easier but likely not. I can tell of feelings and the ideal of faith, but you have to want to believe and then work on it.
What I find most ironic about this subject, is how miltant the non beleivers are. They all seem to have lost an earlier simpler faith and revel in trying to destroy it in others. The world is full of you kind of losers. |
Infidel! Infidel! Kill them!
Another religious 'victim'. The mean non-believers said my god wasn't real. Ohh, poor you. Grow some nuts 
I thought the last of the renegade God-boys were gone when blynch got laughed off his own post.
Come back when your spine starts holding you up. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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There is a God. He is not some amorphous power he wound up the world and now stands back to watch and see what people will do. He is Our Father in Heaven. I believe. Can I prove it by objective means? Likely not, although a universe as beautiful and diverse as the one we have speaks loudly of someone who cares.
Can I prove it subectively, easier but likely not. I can tell of feelings and the ideal of faith, but you have to want to believe and then work on it.
What I find most ironic about this subject, is how miltant the non beleivers are. They all seem to have lost an earlier simpler faith and revel in trying to destroy it in others. The world is full of you kind of losers. |
Losers? That's rich.
So what do you make of the fact there is no material evidence of the 'exodus', and nothing was ever written by the egyptians about the disaster of losing 20,000 chariots. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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batsh1t said this:
"Another religious 'victim'. The mean non-believers said my god wasn't real. Ohh, poor you. Grow some nuts."
You obviously don't know me. I am one of the most "in your face" confrontational people you would meet. My "take" on your handle is just a small sample.
What a juvenile loser you are. You have all the intelligence and wit of a sexually demented chihuahua humping an old ladies leg. Neither my faith nor my comfort zone are dependant on your approval or even existance.
I get the distinct message that you mommy made you go to church and you are still all bent up about it. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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What I find most ironic about this subject, is how [militant] the non [believers] are. They all seem to have lost an earlier simpler faith and revel in trying to destroy it in others. The world is full of you kind of losers. |
Well, the believers show their own bitterness and anger. It's a bit more ironic coming from people who preach a religion of love and peace like Christianity. And it's good to see your faith has filled you with such love and peace. I can be a better person like you if I submit to Christ Jesus? Sign me up!
I'm not out to destroy your faith. Believe as you see fit. If you want to argue on a message board your faith is based on testable claims, then I'm happy to destroy that belief. If you want to claim the laws of my nation should be based on the morality contained in your holy book, I'll also argue against that position. You notice, not many people go out of their way to attack Mennonites and the Amish. They have some rather fundamentalist beliefs. But the key is, they don't try and make their beliefs the beliefs of the whole nation. They're not out preaching using a remote control is sinful and the civilian legal code should ban them. |
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Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
Joined: 01 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| You obviously don't know me |
No, and we really don't care. Really.
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| I am one of the most "in your face" confrontational people you would meet |
In other words, one of the dumbest. |
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Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
Joined: 01 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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There is a God. He is not some amorphous power he wound up the world and now stands back to watch and see what people will do. He is Our Father in Heaven. I believe. Can I prove it by objective means? Likely not, although a universe as beautiful and diverse as the one we have speaks loudly of someone who cares.
Can I prove it subectively, easier but likely not. I can tell of feelings and the ideal of faith, but you have to want to believe and then work on it. |
Let's keep it simple shall we? You can't prove it, guaranteed. Better men have tried and failed.
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| What I find most ironic about this subject, is how [militant] the non [believers] are. They all seem to have lost an earlier simpler faith and revel in trying to destroy it in others. The world is full of you kind of losers. |
What the others said. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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The jill in the hat:
If my faith depended on being able to justify it to you or others it would be useless to me.
someone else:
What do I have to say about the Egytians failure to comment on Exodus?
About as much as I have to say about the low quality of Egyptian commentary in the present time. About at useless and believable as "I'll respect you in the morning". |
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Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
Joined: 01 Apr 2007
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| If my faith depended on being able to justify it to you or others it would be useless to me. |
That's fine and dandy, but what the hell are you telling us for?
(Were you somehow under the impression that we cared??) |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| There is a God. He is not some amorphous power he wound up the world and now stands back to watch and see what people will do. He is Our Father in Heaven. I believe. Can I prove it by objective means? Likely not, although a universe as beautiful and diverse as the one we have speaks loudly of someone who cares. |
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So beautiful and diverse equals God? Both of these are subjective measures not really evidence in any sense. It is also a harsh cold universe full of much of the same stuff.
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| Can I prove it subectively, easier but likely not. I can tell of feelings and the ideal of faith, but you have to want to believe and then work on it. |
Yes Wendy, all you have to do is believe.
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| What I find most ironic about this subject, is how miltant the non beleivers are. They all seem to have lost an earlier simpler faith and revel in trying to destroy it in others. The world is full of you kind of losers. |
It's statements like that that make me want to fly planes into buildings or tell my students they're all going to hell. What do you revel in? Losing an invisible friend has not made me a loser, please explain. Or is everyone not like you a loser? |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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So what do you make of the fact there is no material evidence of the 'exodus', and nothing was ever written by the egyptians about the disaster of losing 20,000 chariots. |
Would those be the same Egyptians that occupied Israel and most of the middle east at that time and had border guards placed through out that area? Maybe that's why it took them 40years to get there, they used stealth.  |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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My, my 209 has given himself a mental wedgie
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I get the distinct message that you mommy made you go to church and you are still all bent up about it. |
On the contrarian, mommy was a catholic and daddy was an athiest, I wandered both sides of the fence before deciding that daddy was right.
A large part that decision was realising that religious people make bizzare and nonsensical rationalisations; like you, seeing a caring god in the beautiful and unique universe. Beautiful yes, caring no, god? Definitely not.
You are welcome to your faith, defending it doesn't make you loser. Attacking those who question you faith makes you a loser.
Your 'take' on my handle was about as 'in your face' as a custard pie.
Onward Christian soldier. |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| What I find most ironic about this subject, is how miltant the non beleivers are.....The world is full of you kind of losers. |
What I find ironic is
1) A complaint about "militancy" followed by calling people "losers"
2) Claims of humility followed by accusations of spiritual inferiority
3) Claims of humility followed by imposition of personal values on others
4) Claims of pure faith followed by attempts at logical and scientific argument
5) Claims of deep personal belief expressed in plagiarized words |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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My, my 209 has given himself a mental wedgie
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I'll still respect you in the morning. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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What do I have to say about the Egytians failure to comment on Exodus?
About as much as I have to say about the low quality of Egyptian commentary in the present time. About at useless and believable as "I'll respect you in the morning". |
I see you know as much about egyptian history as you do about your own religion.
Do you believe you are going to heaven? |
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