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[chicagorick]

Sex Pistols, 2007:

Pretty Vacant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQuGjbdvHZo

Anarchy In The UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTF4cO7gUOg
(featuring Ron Paul)

[Greekfreak]

Check out Jerry Lee Lewis' "Live At The Star Club" album, and you'll see that punk existed way before any of your selections.

Real punk rock was basically rock 'n' roll with louder amps and safety pins. And without the New York Dolls, Steve Jones never learns how to play.

So out of your list, the NY Dolls are the only choice.

Hell, Serge Gainsbourg was punk.

Elements of The Who begat punk. Same with Eddie Cochran, The Kingsmen, Buddy Holly, etc. You can trace a line throughout all those bands through the years.

[genezorm]

i think "the first punk band" as you are calling it is likely a group no one has heard of

maybe some cavemen banging a drum and rocks and grunting

i think you are looking for the first group who garnered a lot of mainstream media attention and were labeled with the term "punk" by the look of the choices of you poll

[legalquestions]

either the Who or the Stones

[chachee99]

I don't know if the Sex Pistols were the first band to introduce punk music. However, I will argue they were the first band to convey purest attitude of punk, especially Sid Vicious. The guy couldn't play the bass at all. He sucked at the bass so much they would unplug his guitar from the amplifier. What made him such an icon was how he behaved on stage. That dude just didn't give a sh!t. It wasn't a stage act either. It was the way he was really was. Johnny Rotton may have been a bad ass, but he couldn't hold a candle compared to Sid.

[ESL Milk "Everyday]

Actually, in 'End Of The Century' the Ramones talk about how the Sex Pistols and the Clash basically took what they were doing and sold it to a more receptive audience (The British). And considering that their first album came out a full year before the Pistols' and included a song called 'Judy Is A Punk', that would seem true enough.

Those other bands might have dabbled a bit and inspired the future punks, but they never completely got there with their attitudes or their music... the Velvets wrote about tough things, but they were too smart about it and wrote great songs with heaps of textures that at times showed too much sensitivity. The NY Dolls were too much into make-up, weird clothes and kitsch. The Stooges don't count because they wrote songs that lasted more than three minutes.

The Ramones played short songs that got to the point, didn't screw around with all kinds of solos and instrumentation, barely learned how to play their instruments, used nothing but power chords, and basically knew exactly what they were doing. Their concerts were a half hour long with no breaks between songs.

[Dexter Sword]

[newton kabiddles]

The Ramones did something no one ever did before but they were not punk rock. They were the first high speed American ROCK N ROLL band. There's no doubt their ideas influenced the first Punk Rock bands that came out of England, but they were not a Punk Rock band. They're a simple, hard and fast progression of American RNR from the 50's. Punk was something that came out of England and influenced California bands in America. The Ramones just kept doing what they had always done - they played rock and roll. They were never punk.

[ESL Milk "Everyday]

[68Comeback]

The term 'Punk' has always been such a subjective word, and What is seen as one man's manna, is another man's crap.
I laughed when Lux Interior once said, 'I thought a punk was someone who took it in the ass in jail'.
As far as i'm concerned, the whole concept of 'Punk' was about doing your own thing. As a social movement it was inevitably bound to be consumed and
co-opted by the masses, but for brief moments in time, it was beyond the fringe. Some of the people I think of as 'Punks' are the following:

Beethoven, Jerry Lee Lewis, Screaming Jay Hawkins, Charlie Feathers, The Sonics, The Monks, Bo Diddley, Capt Beefheart, Syd Barret, Francis Bacon, Jackson Pollack, Jim Carrol, Patti Smith, Zappa, Roky Erikson, John Cale, Williams Burroughs, Charles Bukowski.

It was never about music, but more about freedom of spirit, and in
many cases crossing the rubicon, and navigating the waters, where few dared to tread.

Some have mentioned the MC5, and I totally agree with their mention. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for the MC5 playing alot of halls and dances throughout Detroit, they would have never had the opportunity to bring up The Stooges as their opening act many a night. And the rest is history. The MC5 were not just about music either, as they also stirred up public ire, by supporting radical groups of the day such as the Black Panthers, and NORML. Actually MC5 manager John Sinclair was forced to do time in a Michigan state prison on a trumped up charge for possession of one Marijuana joint. The band would hold rallies to raise legal funds to free Sinclair, and he was eventually released.

I think if the kids of today really want to be 'Punks', then they should all become Scientologists. Hair cuts and hot topic do't cut it anymore when it comes to freaking out mom and dad.

[Greekfreak]

The Jesus & Mary Chain is an example of a band of punks who played power pop. But their attitude was pure punk. They were influenced by Lee Hazelwood, The Beach Boys, The Velvet Underground, and Dusty Springfield.

But the first real punk band was the New York Dolls--they absolutely couldn't play, broke every mold there was before and after their existance, and to this day, recorded two albums that compare favourably to just about any other album out there.

[genezorm]

[The_Eyeball_Kid]

[ESL Milk "Everyday]

Therefore everything is subjective and there's no point in ever talking about anything ever.

[yushin]

elvis...(and I ain't talkin about declan mcmanus that great imposter...)