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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Really? Have you not been keeping up with the incidents where the police use too much force? Or should we color all the police as you've colored all the protesters, as pepper-spray happy brutes? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| Once it was fire hoses and German shepards trying to keep the colored folks in line, now it's pepper spray keeping the students in line. The more things change... |
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri
Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
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| And let's not forget the gov't provocateurs who pose as them. |
I don't agree with that. |
OK, you agree with forgetting. Got it. Weird, but got it. |
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| OK, you agree with forgetting. Got it. Weird, but got it. |
No, I think he's saying he doesn't see "government provocateurs" posing as UC Davis protesters.
Where do you see them? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:15 am Post subject: |
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No, I think he's saying he doesn't see "government provocateurs" posing as UC Davis protesters.
Where do you see them? |
I've always thought ba was a little fuzzy on the difference between 'is' and 'could be'...I suppose it's a little bit like WJC and his questioning the definition of 'is'. |
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri
Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| OK, you agree with forgetting. Got it. Weird, but got it. |
No, I think he's saying he doesn't see "government provocateurs" posing as UC Davis protesters. |
No, he was saying that, in general, demonstrations tend to attract
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Same place Butterfly saw
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
Funny Yat didn't see fit to make the same comment to him.
Oh, yeah. Google "COINTELPRO". |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
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| Since the police chief and two of the officers have been placed on leave...that's hardly "despotic power". |
Neither is paid leave quite accountability. |
But that might be what the union contract stipulates. I have a hunch the two of them won't be working there much longer. Ditto with the police chief. |
I agree they'll end up getting fired, but it was the university administration that called them out in the first place and bears final responsibility. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ineverlie&I'malwaysri wrote: |
| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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| OK, you agree with forgetting. Got it. Weird, but got it. |
No, I think he's saying he doesn't see "government provocateurs" posing as UC Davis protesters. |
No, he was saying that, in general, demonstrations tend to attract
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
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| Where do you see them? |
Same place Butterfly saw
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
Funny Yat didn't see fit to make the same comment to him.
Oh, yeah. Google "COINTELPRO". |
What are you talking about? I said that protests are often if not always hijacked to some extent by thugs, but I don't accept that these thugs are government stooges in the current round of protests in the US as you suggested. That is all. |
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri
Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| Ineverlie&I'malwaysri wrote: |
| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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| OK, you agree with forgetting. Got it. Weird, but got it. |
No, I think he's saying he doesn't see "government provocateurs" posing as UC Davis protesters. |
No, he was saying that, in general, demonstrations tend to attract
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
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| Where do you see them? |
Same place Butterfly saw
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
Funny Yat didn't see fit to make the same comment to him.
Oh, yeah. Google "COINTELPRO". |
What are you talking about? I said that protests are often if not always hijacked to some extent by thugs, but I don't accept that these thugs are government stooges in the current round of protests in the US as you suggested. That is all. |
I'm responding to you. You offered that thugs often hijack protests in general, and I offered that said thugs are often provocateurs in general. I never said it was specific to this protest. That is all. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Ineverlie&I'malwaysri wrote: |
| Butterfly wrote: |
| Ineverlie&I'malwaysri wrote: |
| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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| OK, you agree with forgetting. Got it. Weird, but got it. |
No, I think he's saying he doesn't see "government provocateurs" posing as UC Davis protesters. |
No, he was saying that, in general, demonstrations tend to attract
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
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| Where do you see them? |
Same place Butterfly saw
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| agitators, villians and anarchists. |
Funny Yat didn't see fit to make the same comment to him.
Oh, yeah. Google "COINTELPRO". |
What are you talking about? I said that protests are often if not always hijacked to some extent by thugs, but I don't accept that these thugs are government stooges in the current round of protests in the US as you suggested. That is all. |
I'm responding to you. You offered that thugs often hijack protests in general, and I offered that said thugs are often provocateurs in general. I never said it was specific to this protest. That is all. |
Okay then i do agree with you, I stand corrected. It's certainly the kind of thing Ghaddaffi used to do. |
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