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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the following post is meant totally in a tongue in cheek manner:







The Lemon:
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If you can't find a particular thread, it's possible that it fell victim to this. So don't freak out - it was a technical thing, not a moderator decision.


I smell a cover up, a conspiracy of some sorts ...

My theory:

The Mods took the board down ... to delete threads ...

The Truth Is Out There / Trust No One.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blind Willie wrote:
little hint

if you dont kill roaches the first time you see them, they multiply and ruin your home


I read on that other board that Squaffy was dead
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
What an idiot
I think the shotgun might have bit back and got him Laughing


canuckistan, this post made me laugh because of that Fight Club forum on BW's webstte of old
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Raoul Duke



Joined: 17 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking for info as to why the board was closed, I think Dave's recent Global Announcement speaks volumes.

I for one would really like to know what sort of agreements the US has with the ROK and the EC with regard to the prosecution of persons who are found to have committed DOS and possibly even Critical Infrastructure attacks (because that's what the internet is these days; it's right up there with telecommunications, electricity, hydro, and banking services as critical for a state to operate), and I hope those involved get whats coming to them.

Attacking a website (even something as innocuous as an ESL site) in most countries is no longer considered a prank- it's considered a crime. What has happened is the modern-day equivalent of smashing store windows- maybe no one got physically hurt but the business involved sure as hell can sue you for repair costs, lost revenue, and punitive damages...


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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22027
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Harin



Joined: 03 May 2004
Location: Garden of Eden

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay, dave's is back up and running again! Very Happy
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave's just put up a notice asking for help finding the hacker.

Here:http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22027

I hope they get him (or her).
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The internet retards got caught with their pants down when the Koreanesl webmaster posted their IP's they weren't masking.....very helpful for the police to investigate the IP's that turned up there. At least the Korean ones.
I would imagine some of them will be getting visited soon.

The question is, who is going to rat out whom once the police start turning the screws?
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get nervous sometimes because some of the psychos and whack jobs who were kicked off this board get really vicious about some of us on other boards. Clearly, if this was a hack job, some of these guys have the time and the inclination to make trouble for others. They are the ones that need to get a life. Or maybe get life?
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 8:21 am    Post subject: arthur fonzarelli=smrt. SMRT Reply with quote

That is all fine and well, but for mercy's sake, tell me you were able to save THE THREAD ABOUT AMEER JINAH, SPITTING CHAMPION.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: arthur fonzarelli=smrt. SMRT Reply with quote

The Man known as The Man wrote:
That is all fine and well, but for mercy's sake, tell me you were able to save THE THREAD ABOUT AMEER JINAH, SPITTING CHAMPION.
Was it a poll? Byebye.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was a poll, it'll *probably* be back in the next few days.
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This attack - like most hacks - was pretty amateurish. The hacker got some canned scripts online and let 'er rip. The only reason the result was so brutal was that Dave never expected to be attacked in the first place.

I suspect that the attacker, who's no doubt reading this, never expected the damage to be so great, and is feeling remorse.

And if he/she isn't feeling remorse, I suspect it's because he/she thinks Dave's ESL Cafe is some kind of evil empire that must be toppled. They probably picture Dave laughing maniacally and raking in the cash, and think he's open game. Or he/she blames the mods.

But what they fail to realize is that if it was about the money, Dave would've cashed out years ago. Remember that he started this site BEFORE the internet bubble, when guys were getting millions of dollars for ideas, let alone fully-functional websites with an audience. If he only wanted money, he could've sold this site several times over.

Of course, the reason he didn't sell it was because he has an idea of what it's supposed to be, because he's put a lot of time and effort into it, because he loves ESL and the internet, and because it's as much a part of him as his own family.

Seeing the cafe go down might have been funny for the attacker, but that doesn't change the fact that who was knocked down was one of their own - a guy with a passion and a family just trying to make a buck doing something he likes.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.grc.com/dos/drdos.htm







Something like what's described on grc.com?
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: I am Penalty Kick!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any updates? Did they get the perp?
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