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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Did anyone hear the radio interview with Mayor Ray Nagin? That guy is my new hero.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.nagin/index.html


I heard him, too. The man sounds like a first class whiner.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real leaders always contrast with bureaucrats like that...but I'll agree that this mayor has some populist tendencies.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Real leaders always contrast with bureaucrats like that...but I'll agree that this mayor has some populist tendencies.


Well, that's Louisiana for you.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Real leaders always contrast with bureaucrats like that...but I'll agree that this mayor has some populist tendencies.


i don't know man. i'm usually a pretty cynical person when it comes to politicians, but that didn't sound like something that was read off of a teleprompter. that guy was sincerely pissed off, and my heart was warmed when i heard him speak. i think the man rocks.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endofthewor1d wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Real leaders always contrast with bureaucrats like that...but I'll agree that this mayor has some populist tendencies.


i don't know man. i'm usually a pretty cynical person when it comes to politicians, but that didn't sound like something that was read off of a teleprompter. that guy was sincerely pissed off, and my heart was warmed when i heard him speak. i think the man rocks.


Oh, yeah, I liked him too. I think he makes people like the U.S. Senator who I saw earlier on CNN look entirely out-of-touch with reality.

Populist politicians get people saying things like "I think the man rocks," though, that's their talent. Just be careful how far you follow guys like that, that's all. They tend to get the herd running towards the cliffs, and by the time anyone says, "wait a minute, where are we going?" they have usually been led way past the edge of the cliff...
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:

I heard him, too. The man sounds like a first class whiner.


Give me a break. The guy was pissed off, and rightly so.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think the relief effort would've been quicker if the disaster had occured in a major city, New York -than New Orleans?

The mayor also notes an interesting point: much of the violence is being committed by drug addicts going through sudden withdrawal.
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wannago



Joined: 16 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:

I heard him, too. The man sounds like a first class whiner.


Give me a break. The guy was pissed off, and rightly so.


No, he is definitely a first class whiner. Actually it sounded to me like he was going through a withdrawal of his own.
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what? This mess is really NO's fault. I can't imagine a dumber idea than building a city behind an giant wall that keeps out a massive amount of water. That wall created an environmental condition where the amount of water gets larger.

The evacuation warning came well over a 100 years ago. I'm tired of being stuck to some report by a consulting firm that wants a contract to make a bunch of money to improve the wall. Other cities are in the hurricaine belt but NO is different in that has a disaster ready to 24/7/365.
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FlagWaver



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Where's WHITEY??
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wannago wrote:
indytrucks wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:

I heard him, too. The man sounds like a first class whiner.


Give me a break. The guy was pissed off, and rightly so.


No, he is definitely a first class whiner. Actually it sounded to me like he was going through a withdrawal of his own.


Do me a favour. Don't attempt to politicize what happened. It only cheapens the plight of the dead and dying.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Do me a favour. Don't attempt to politicize what happened. It only cheapens the plight of the dead and dying.


Hizzoner went on about Iraq. Yup, no politizing there. Nosiree.
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jinglejangle



Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
Do you think the relief effort would've been quicker if the disaster had occured in a major city, New York -than New Orleans?

The mayor also notes an interesting point: much of the violence is being committed by drug addicts going through sudden withdrawal.


I've always thought that NO was a major city.

Interesting take on the looting.

Wanna grab some guns and a truck and go shopping down there?
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinglejangle wrote:
rapier wrote:
Do you think the relief effort would've been quicker if the disaster had occured in a major city, New York -than New Orleans?

The mayor also notes an interesting point: much of the violence is being committed by drug addicts going through sudden withdrawal.


I've always thought that NO was a major city.

Interesting take on the looting.

Wanna grab some guns and a truck and go shopping down there?


Huh? Did rapier write something about looting? I don't see it there in the quote.
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just watching CNN....they knew that this would happen one day. Apparently, it was well know that a category 3+ hurricane would break the levys. Didn't they have some kind of plan? Did nobody in government realize that some people might not be able to afford to leave the city? No busses, no evacutation assistance, just an order to leave. They didn't have some kind of emergency plan concernng where these refugees could go and how thye would be fed? WTF!?
Anyone know more details?
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