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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me .... (I know this always gets me in trouble, but...)

Is it just me or is this the most split thread ever?
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Panther (Austin too): This is a messageboard. It's not the constitution. Rules are vague because they need to be. Mods and users alike need some wiggle room. If this wiggle room wasnt there, you, me, and almost all of the regulars wouldnt be here.


Part of the reason why we are having this discussion is because the rules are too vague and thus have caused problems.

I don't see why the rules need to be vague, unless they are not well defined.

By defining things better less "wiggle" room will be needed.

I am only trying, with regards to the rules, to be constructive and point out concerns that I have and that I feel are shared by others.
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William Beckerson
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By "defining things better", you are removing the wiggle room.

It also allows users to slap the mods in the face when they dont act they way they think they should.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everybody.

The Song Titles Game needs to be smashed, as does the Who Will Win The Rugby World Cup (when it's finished; bye-bye boomerangs) and many more threads! It will (might?) make the search function more effective.

Goodbye everybody.
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Raoul Duke
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
It will (might?) make the search function more effective.

Good point.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raoul Duke wrote:
buddy bradley wrote:
It will (might?) make the search function more effective.

Good point.

That my first reaction as well. I mean that I'd never thought of that before. But I tested it out and the search function is as fast as ever, and it only allots one entry given to 'songs title' thread. Meaning you'll quickly bypass it without thought or notice.
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Austin



Joined: 23 May 2003
Location: In the kitchen

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:26 pm    Post subject: My original point... Reply with quote

Beckerson,

Thank you for addressing the original point of my post.

When a mod comments on other posters (while acting as a user), the mod undermines his/her ability as a moderator. Impartiality is thrown out the window!
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rudyflyer



Joined: 26 Feb 2003
Location: pacing the cage

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austin you fail to realize that when a moderator is involved in a thread he automatically takes himself or herself out of moderating that thread to remove any perception of bias in the thread.

When I was a moderator we had this happen a number of times and when a subject would become contreversal, another mod would be asked to take over looking at the thread. I know for a fact as I have been asked to do this and have asked others to look at threads I've been involved in and when I took actions on a thread I was involved in I was rightly critcized by the other mods

to imply that because a moderator is involved in a thread that that mod is active in any decision involving it or becomes less unbiased is aboslutely ludicrous. There are enough moderators here to allow unbiased decisions to me made on all topics here.
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Austin



Joined: 23 May 2003
Location: In the kitchen

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: One more time... Reply with quote

Rudyfly,

I was not speaking about a moderator actively posting in a thread as a user. I understand and accept what you have stated. However, I was referring to moderators voicing their personal feelings/opinions about users, when acting in the capacity as a moderator.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=5718&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pieboy&start=30

steroidmaximus:
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While my own feelings for SCSA are ambivalent at best, enough of the trash talk.

Like I said, the question has been answered. If you have anything else to say to anybody, do it via PM.


Are you asserting that the above should be allowed?

Again, why permit moderators to publicly voice their opinions about a user, when users can not publicly voice their opinions about moderators?

An answer to the above would be appreciated.

On another note, do you really expect people to believe that if I called a moderator (acting as a user) something derogatory, that they would not hold a grudge later (heck, it happens even without "name-calling")?
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William Beckerson
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: My original point... Reply with quote

Austin wrote:
Beckerson,

Thank you for addressing the original point of my post.

When a mod comments on other posters (while acting as a user), the mod undermines his/her ability as a moderator. Impartiality is thrown out the window!

Well, considering that impartiality is impossible unless you're a robot, but an attempt to remain objective isn't, I'd say you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Mr. Kalgukshi



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