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what's the lowest (non-criminal) thing you've done?
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mack4289



Joined: 06 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: what's the lowest (non-criminal) thing you've done? Reply with quote

I just hit my low- I was out late last night and didn't get up to see my Mom off to the airport. Not seeing your mother off to the aiport in a foreign country has got to rank pretty high on the "worst non-criminal things you can do" scale. God, I feel awful.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife has a strained relationship with her family, so we have skipped
1) her sister's wedding
2) chuseok feasts for three years in a row
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, you win, Mack.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i convinced a 6-month rebound girlfriend to get an abortion on the false promise that she and i would stay together; i then dumped her a month after she got it done

(i was only 22 years old ! )

i don't feel awful because i didn't love her and was totally "phew" about it, but in hindsight that was a pretty low thing to do to a person
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my. I once got jealous and angry because a girl was talking a lot to a guy I liked, so when she wasn't looking, I grabbed her handphone and took it to the bathroom, flushed it's battery down the toilet, and threw the phone up under the sink at the bar. She never found her phone that night, and later on another night when I went back, her phone was still up under the sink. I got it and took it home and trashed it at my house. It took her a while to get a new handphone, too, because she would use the bar's phone whenever she would come in there. Now, I don't even know what I saw in that guy in the first place.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
My wife has a strained relationship with her family, so we have skipped
1) her sister's wedding
2) chuseok feasts for three years in a row

I'd use the word "fortunate" in this case rather than "low"
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
i convinced a 6-month rebound girlfriend to get an abortion on the false promise that she and i would stay together; i then dumped her a month after she got it done

(i was only 22 years old ! )

i don't feel awful because i didn't love her and was totally "phew" about it, but in hindsight that was a pretty low thing to do to a person


We've all done stupid things. Nothing to feel bad about.

But don't play it down to your age, you were 22, not 18. When I came here (a whooping 3 months ago) I was 22, and people were constantly reminding me of how young I was. Twenty-two is not young, you're old enough to understand the difference between right and wrong in a complex way, at least you should be and if you're not able to then you can't be expected to twenty years later either.

It was a mistake, though an adult mistake and not a childish one.

Egads, when people come here they make such a big deal out of age. Its driving me a little nuts. Back home, no one would refer to you as young at twenty-two. Next people are going to be saying thirty is young and stupid stuff you do when you're thirty is excusable because you don't know any better.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Oh my. I once got jealous and angry because a girl was talking a lot to a guy I liked, so when she wasn't looking, I grabbed her handphone and took it to the bathroom, flushed it's battery down the toilet, and threw the phone up under the sink at the bar. She never found her phone that night, and later on another night when I went back, her phone was still up under the sink. I got it and took it home and trashed it at my house. It took her a while to get a new handphone, too, because she would use the bar's phone whenever she would come in there. Now, I don't even know what I saw in that guy in the first place.


That would be theft. Theft is criminal princess.

Reading skillz?
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Jarome_Turner



Joined: 10 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
i convinced a 6-month rebound girlfriend to get an abortion on the false promise that she and i would stay together; i then dumped her a month after she got it done

(i was only 22 years old ! )

i don't feel awful because i didn't love her and was totally "phew" about it, but in hindsight that was a pretty low thing to do to a person


We've all done stupid things. Nothing to feel bad about.

But don't play it down to your age, you were 22, not 18. When I came here (a whooping 3 months ago) I was 22, and people were constantly reminding me of how young I was. Twenty-two is not young, you're old enough to understand the difference between right and wrong in a complex way, at least you should be and if you're not able to then you can't be expected to twenty years later either.

It was a mistake, though an adult mistake and not a childish one.

Egads, when people come here they make such a big deal out of age. Its driving me a little nuts. Back home, no one would refer to you as young at twenty-two. Next people are going to be saying thirty is young and stupid stuff you do when you're thirty is excusable because you don't know any better.


It used to kill me when I first got here (24 at the time), and got treated like a child by people a whopping 2 years older than me. Rolling Eyes

"Don't smoke in front of him, he's older than you." Laughing
"If he offers you a drink, you cannot refuse, he's your hyoung!" Laughing
"You can't go home yet, I want to drink more and I'm older!" Laughing

At the time I was worried about insulting most Koreans (well, to be honest, it was never a Korean of the fairer sex) I met who were older that I was. I quickly got over it tho, there's no way I (as a grown man) will bow down to someone and allow them to make decisions for me because they happend to be born a year or two, or even ten, before I did.

Now, there are exceptions. I usually try and afford the highest level of respect I can to old folks (old meaning senior citizen status I guess) if they show it in return. Don't snarl at me like an ignorant old adjoshee and I'll gladly pour your drink with two hands.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a pretty tight group of friends in high school. A lot of them were girls. We always would hang out and I guess I enjoyed the favorable male:female ratio. When we all graduated, I went off to another college for a change of scenery and the rest of them went to this different college. A new guy started hanging out in the group and each one of the others, when they would email me or talk to me on the phone, would say how great this new guy was. How he was a good listener like me, how he was a funny guy like me, how he was cool like me. That bothered me more than I admitted to myself.

Well after one year of that I went back to join the people I knew at the university they all went to, and now everybody was back together again... with the new guy. We of course became good friends because ... we had to. But I didn't like him as much as I said I did.

The new guy started dating one of the other girls in the group who was super ultra conservative. One night I was hanging out in his room and he threw a Playboy at me. I said, "uh oh, I'm telling your girlfriend." He laughed, and I laughed, cuz it was an absurd idea. Right?

Yah. The next morning at breakfast I actually told his girlfriend on the spur of the moment. The horrified gasp that came from her mouth let me know how wrong I was to do that. I tried some half-hearted backpedaling but of course it didn't work. She confronted the new guy about it, and he failed the confrontation. They broke up and the new guy left a very angry rant on my answering machine. All of the people in the group took his side and basically told me, "how could you?!"

I asked myself the same question. It felt like it pretty much happened by accident. I must have been really good at fooling myself back then. But I didn't do anything to make it right and started hanging out with other people.

So breaking up a couple and alienating all my high school friends is about the lowest thing I've done.
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Jarome_Turner



Joined: 10 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh... sorry for the off topic post there. Let's see if I can remedy....
hmmmm....
I once sat by and watched a good friend of mine *beep* in a tube-sock, then hide it behind the heater in the room of another guy who lived in the same university house as we did. I'm not sure if that's illegal or not.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Left for Korea in 2003 without telling my then GF.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
My wife has a strained relationship with her family, so we have skipped
1) her sister's wedding
2) chuseok feasts for three years in a row


Why is the "relationship" strained?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was a teenager, my mother was out of town on holiday (this isn't going where you think it's going), it was exam time, and my brother and sister and I had to get ready for a trip to Montreal to stay with our dad for a few days. My grandfather (mother's side) had a heart attack and was in the hospital. We were out of dinner with my aunt and uncle (father's side) and my sister was wondering when we'd go visit our grandfather in the hospital. Being a teenager, not thinking, stressed out because of exams and the looming trip, I said "Oh I don't think we have time".

My uncle cut in. "There's always time to see a member of your family in hospital."

And he was right. I instantly felt guilty as hell. Ever since then, a friend or relative spends time in the hospital, I will visit every day, bring magazines, food, whatever. No truer words my uncle spoke.
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mikowee



Joined: 03 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i was in uni, my mom came to visit me once. She didn't tell me she was coming to visit, she just drove 2.5 hours and popped up at my place. At the time, my place was frequently used for drugs and debauchery, and her showing up without notice freaked me the hell out. So I screamed at her. She started crying and left. Probably one of the lowest points in my life.
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