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[igotthisguitar]

World media is reporting on the carnage as all hell breaks loose in the Middle East once again.

Israel, not surprisingly, is right in the thick of things.

Rather than simply negotiate the safe release of their few soldiers, in exchange for other fellow-"semitic" women & children they're holding as prisoners, the decision has been made to simply bomb the "OTHER" into oblivion.

They do well in destroying & killing, but are their actions enough to justify formal legal proceedings against their leaders along the lines of say Saddam Hussein, the Gestapo, Milosevic et al?

IGTG.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith-Bjerknes16July2006.mp3

[Junior]

No. Accidental killing of civilians yes.

Imagine what the islamists would do if they had the same weapons the israelis and the US have???

They're already killing civilians indiscriminately in their hundreds every week. just for being a different branch of Islam.

[SeoulFinn]

I would have to say yes. Even tough accidental killing of civillians is not against the "rules of war" if you belive wiki.

[Hater Depot]

I would say bombing a highway leaves you open to accusations of intentionally killing civilians.

[Captain Courageous]

It's quite clear that most people who scream about how evil Israel is at every turn have clearly different standards of right and wrong for each Israel and those they are fighting.

[igotthisguitar]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[Gopher]

This poll ought really be rewritten so that it might probe the depths of Igotthisguitar's antisemitism.

[Bulsajo]

He's made it clear here in the past that he's not anti-semitic in that he's not againt Judaism as a belief per se, he's simply against Zionists, the jews who secretly control the US and the world economy, Israelis, and those believe that a Holocaust took place.
(so, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...)

I'm disturbed by the Israeli response, but I'm more disturbed by Hezbollah.
According to figures I heard this morning, casualties are about even for both sides.
Both sides have hit civilians.
Are both sides targetting civilians?
I understand there are arguments either way about the Israelis, but on the other side of the coin- is there any doubt about Hezbollah, Hamas?
They have consistently in the past and and are clearly now indiscriminately targetting civilians.
There's no debate about that.
(This is called getting into an argument about who is 'more responsible', which is something I said I wouldn't do, but it's clear that in order to debunk the conspiracy of dunces which exists on this board we have to go down this road).

And as for the Israelis, you can argue that the scope of their response is out of proportion, but you can't argue that a response was uneccessary; And if you argue that the scope is out of proportion because of civilian casualties, proving that they are indescriminate with their targets presupposes knowledge of Israeli military capabilities and tactics as well as presupposes knowledge of Hezbollah locations, infrastructure, and tactics.
I certainly don't have such knowledge and I doubt anyone else here does, nor do any of the media organizations condemning the Israeli response.

[Gopher]

[fiveeagles]

[ddeubel]

[Gopher]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[JAWINSEOUL]

Lebanon has allowed Hamas to operate inside its boarders unchecked for years. This is now the cause of civilian death in an uncivilized country. War crimes and other international laws were enacted to protect innocent people in need of international help.

The Lebanese will have to take responsibility for their inaction over the past decades. The people are ultimately reasonable for the actions of their government.