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Optimus Prime
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afsjesse
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Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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| when did oprah label us all as pedophiles?? |
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Optimus Prime
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| when did oprah label us all as pedophiles?? |
For the last two/three years, pretty much once a month.
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Oprah Winfrey has spoken out about her "devastation" upon hearing of the allegations of child abuse taking place at her all-girls academy in South Africa.
The media mogul recently visited the Henley-on-Klip Leadership Academy, which she co-founded in 2006, after hearing reports a matron at the boarding school had molested a pupil.
Several more alleged victims have since come forward, making a total of 15. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Oprah is really having a bad year. She really needs to take some time off and get her head out of her asss. She's been living in the bubble for far too long. |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Optimus Prime wrote: |
| afsjesse wrote: |
| when did oprah label us all as pedophiles?? |
For the last two/three years, pretty much once a month. |
Do you have a link? |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| Oprah is really having a bad year. She really needs to take some time off and get her head out of her asss. She's been living in the bubble for far too long. |
This is pretty sad; I really like Oprah. I'm sure it must be horrible as she accidently put these girls in the same situation she fought most of her life to escape (she was sexually abused as a girl). |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Optimus Prime wrote: |
| afsjesse wrote: |
| when did oprah label us all as pedophiles?? |
For the last two/three years, pretty much once a month.
From the article:
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Oprah Winfrey has spoken out about her "devastation" upon hearing of the allegations of child abuse taking place at her all-girls academy in South Africa.
The media mogul recently visited the Henley-on-Klip Leadership Academy, which she co-founded in 2006, after hearing reports a matron at the boarding school had molested a pupil.
Several more alleged victims have since come forward, making a total of 15. |
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Ok. Your quote shows about the accusations at her school, but does nothing to support your claim that she's labelled all ESL teachers in Asia as pedophiles. I've NEVER heard those claims from her (or reported as being said by her).
If you're going to make such a statement, I hope you can back it up with a quote from her, pertaining to ESL teachers in Asia, not her school in South Africa.
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
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Optimus Prime
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
Well at least I never signed the paycheck for a pedophile while accusing ESL teachers in Asia as all being potential pedos. Find your own links, you slovenly, lazy Oprah fan. |
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Hanson
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
While I agree with most of your post, I'm not entirely sure the bolded part is correct. I heard she had personally interviewed all students and faculty for her school, but I could be wrong.
Be that as it may, Optimus has an obvious dislike for Oprah, so he has chosen skewed words to paint his picture. Hey, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, we all do it... |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
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I agree. I'm waiting for those links too. |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Optimus Prime wrote: |
| SeoulShakin wrote: |
Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
Well at least I never signed the paycheck for a pedophile while accusing ESL teachers in Asia as all being potential pedos. Find your own links, you slovenly, lazy Oprah fan. |
First of all, I'm not slovenly. Thanks though. 
Second of all, I'm not the one who made the unsupported claim. It's not my job to back up what you are saying. |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
While I agree with most of your post, I'm not entirely sure the bolded part is correct. I heard she had personally interviewed all students and faculty for her school, but I could be wrong.
Be that as it may, Optimus has an obvious dislike for Oprah, so he has chosen skewed words to paint his picture. Hey, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, we all do it... |
I have nothing to do in my afternoons here at work, so I watch the "news" videos on msn.com. One of the videos happend to be Oprah saying exactly that. She hired the Headmaster of the school, and that person was the one who hired the other staff (that's certainly the idea that was put across). The headmaster has since taken voluntary leave, while the whole thing is sorted out. The accused person has been let go, and is being investigated.
I don't consider myself a huge Oprah fan, but I don't think it's right to make these kind of statements when there is nothing to back them up. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
While I agree with most of your post, I'm not entirely sure the bolded part is correct. I heard she had personally interviewed all students and faculty for her school, but I could be wrong.
Be that as it may, Optimus has an obvious dislike for Oprah, so he has chosen skewed words to paint his picture. Hey, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, we all do it... |
I have nothing to do in my afternoons here at work, so I watch the "news" videos on msn.com. One of the videos happend to be Oprah saying exactly that. She hired the Headmaster of the school, and that person was the one who hired the other staff (that's certainly the idea that was put across). The headmaster has since taken voluntary leave, while the whole thing is sorted out. The accused person has been let go, and is being investigated.
I don't consider myself a huge Oprah fan, but I don't think it's right to make these kind of statements when there is nothing to back them up. |
Hmmm... I'm not doubting your info, but I remember reading a quote, something to the effect of "I trusted her... She betrayed me", which led me to believe she had personally hired the woman accused of wrongdoings. Guess I was wrong.
That being said, I agree that Optimus has been less than honest in his accusations about Oprah. If you're gonna accuse, be ready to back it up, not cry away calling another poster lazy and slovenly instead of providing links.
SeoulShakin - you're quickly becoming a favourite poster of mine! Don't worry, I'm very happily married... |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
Also, an enabler is someone who knows something is going on and continues to not only allow it to happen, but somewhat aids it in happening. She's not doing that at all. Once the claims were made, she's taken many steps to STOP the situation, and get rid of the people in question. She is also taking many steps to ensure that future staff members there go through much more in depth screening. Oprah was not personally responsible for who was hired to work there, but after hearing about what was going on, has made the choice to become much more involved in knowing who is in her school.
That doesn't sound like an enabler to me.
You just sound like an idiot. |
So what if any blame should Oprah accept.
I don't really know.
Let say you open a school in a country where sex crime is out of control.
Okay, any amount of sex crime is out of control.
But let's just take for instance rape in South Africa, how does it compare to the other countries.
(look it up even Oprah was aware that rape is well a routine occurance in SA)
Do you go into that country open a school and use local talent to fill all the positions?
How much security/provacy do you provide?
About what you would in a "Western" country, more than would or
excessively more thanyou would?
If the rape per capita factor were let's say 3x more than in the Canada
for instance would you provided security at say 3x the normal rate for an
all girls school in Canada?
Who would you hire for security the local security company or an
internationally reknowned security company?
I know hindsight is 20/20 but I mean c'mon, let say you open a sneaker
factory in India would you expect the locals to hire and pay a fair wage or
to pocket the payroll an employe child slave labor? Or would you check
up on these thing very often?
Just saying. |
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