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Poll: Americans Want Bush Impeached

by David Swanson
Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 02:10:40 PM PDT

Poll: Americans Favor Bush's Impeachment If He Lied about Iraq

By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/11/171040/56

[Ya-ta Boy]

The title of this thread is misleading. IF he lied, 50% want impeachment.

[Wangja]

[mithridates]

I smell blood.

[Rteacher]

Why misleading? I think it would be leading in the right direction...

[joe_doufu]

I would support the OP being sent to butt rape prison IF he blew up a bus in New York. What does that tell you?

[EFLtrainer]

[Pligganease]

[Rteacher]

Is there really any question that Bush (whether he was misled by subordinates or-not - he's supposed to be the leader...) lied about Iraq?
And in political parlance, language is almost never used precisely, and there is invariably a partisan slant given to poll data. Considering that context, and the fact that "Americans" certainly does not denote "all Americans" or even "most Americans" - merely a statistically signicant number of "Americans" - I think the heading is OK as a lead-in (especially for the purposes of this forum - which, of course, is a breeding ground for provacateurs...)

[EFLtrainer]

[Pligganease]

[EFLtrainer]

[igotthisguitar]

Today's Poll Results from MSNBC ...

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?
122,597 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
85%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
5%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

Spying, the Constitution — and the ��I-word��
2006 will offer up Nixon-era nastiness and a chorus of calls to impeach Bush
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10561966/

[EFLtrainer]

Can any of it happen quickly enough to salvage a badly altered future? Maybe there is a small chance of preventing the most precipitous decline of a world power - short of invasion - in history. Not to mention the overall global mess...

This idiot - Hello NSA!! Enjoy the read!!!! - has played perfectly into the only scenario that would get the idiots who voted for him to turn against him: irrefutable prrof that he is as anti-American (read anti-constitution) as anyone on the planet.

I thought the writer made a beautful point in pointing out that the presidential oath includes defending the constitution, which both Bushes have shredded beyond recognition.

[Gopher]

Please list the specific impeachable crimes you are alleging and show how W. Bush has committed them.

Nixon's involvement in Watergate, and how this was an impeachable crime, is very clear. "Nixon-era spying" on antiwar dissidents is somewhat accurate, but ultimately misleading, as it was not an impeachable offense. Moreover, the Rockefeller Commission and the Church Committee both found that CIA had not violated its charter and had broken no U.S. laws.

It is also clear, though, that Reagan should have been impeached for the constitutional crisis he provoked over Nicaragua. He defied a Congressional order, and directed others to mislead Congress on a host of issues, including failing to notify the Select Intelligence Committee on his "finding" re: Iranian arms sales.

Clinton's false testimony re: Monica, while I disagree with it, was technically impeachable. He did lie under oath, after all. So, agree with it or not, it is not difficult to understand why he was impeached, even if it was politically-oriented nonsense.

So, in any case, what exactly has W. Bush done that is impeachable?