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mehmeh
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea
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 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: Global Corruption Barometer: Korea, REALLY!? |
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There's a similar thread in the Jobs forum but I felt this one belonged here.
Transparency international released its annual Global Corruption Barometer. I think some of you might have a good laugh at where S. Korea is (hint: they did better than Sweden, Denmark and Netherlands)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7130529.stm
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The_Eyeball_Kid
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Tsk. What a joke. It just shows that Koreans have stopped thinking of them as bribes. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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utter b.s.
must have been a poll: to save face Koreans easily lie |
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Capo
Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| what do normal people pay brikes for here then? i think you failed to grasp exactly what they were coving in the article. Myabe business deals are corrupt but the ordinary citizens aren't paying bribes directly as far as i know. Its not like when i was crossing into cambodia the officials wouldn't stanp my passport unless i paid them a $2 bribe |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree this country is corrupt as Christ, but in its defence has anyone here ever had to actually bribe a cop? |
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mehmeh
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Capo wrote: |
| what do normal people pay brikes for here then? i think you failed to grasp exactly what they were coving in the article. Myabe business deals are corrupt but the ordinary citizens aren't paying bribes directly as far as i know. Its not like when i was crossing into cambodia the officials wouldn't stanp my passport unless i paid them a $2 bribe |
I agree with you that the study measures bribes in the context of daily life and doesn't focus on business deals. However, I do feel Koreans might have a different idea of what constitutes a "bribe."
From what I've been told by a various different sources (k-friends, books, etc.), it's still fairly common practice for parents to payoff teachers at the beginning of the school year so they'll give "extra" attention to their child. We all hear the stories about what goes on at the university level between students and professors and just last week I was told how a former coworker paid off her church pastor so he would set her up with a good man! Granted, most of these are not solicited bribes like you described in Cambodia and often they're not even cash but a bribe is still a bribe.
I'm not a Korea basher but I do feel that such a high ranking is a little hard to believe. I lived in America for over 20 years and have never bribed nor witnessed a bribe take place in the course of my daily life (with exception to my time in the restaurant industry where "pre-tipping" help secure a better table;). |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry people, here are the corruptions stats from TI.
http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2007
1 Denmark 9.4
1 Finland 9.4
1 New Zealand 9.4
4 Singapore 9.3
4 Sweden 9.3
6 Iceland 9.2
7 Netherlands 9.0
7 Switzerland 9.0
9 Canada 8.7
9 Norway 8.7
11 Australia 8.6
12 Luxembourg 8.4
12 United Kingdom 8.4
14 Hong Kong 8.3
15 Austria 8.1
16 Germany 7.8
17 Ireland 7.5
17 Japan 7.5
19 France 7.3
20 USA 7.2
34 Macao 5.7
34 Taiwan 5.7
43 Malaysia 5.1
43 South Africa 5.1
43 South Korea 5.1
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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why do you think parents give teachers gifts?
oh, let me guess, you drink Evian  |
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mehmeh
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
why do you think parents give teachers gifts?
oh, let me guess, you drink Evian |
I don't get it...? |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Reverse the spelling of 'evian'.
| mehmeh wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
why do you think parents give teachers gifts?
oh, let me guess, you drink Evian |
I don't get it...? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
Reverse the spelling of 'evian'.
| mehmeh wrote: |
| I don't get it...? |
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Simple code to flesh out the English as a second language users, eh "mehmeh" |
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mehmeh
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
Reverse the spelling of 'evian'.
| mehmeh wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
why do you think parents give teachers gifts?
oh, let me guess, you drink Evian |
I don't get it...? |
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oh...funny. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: |
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evian = mehmeh
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
Reverse the spelling of 'evian'.
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| I don't get it...? |
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Simple code to flesh out the English as a second language users, eh "mehmeh" |
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mehmeh
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
evian = mehmeh
| VanIslander wrote: |
| Ilsanman wrote: |
Reverse the spelling of 'evian'.
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| I don't get it...? |
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Simple code to flesh out the English as a second language users, eh "mehmeh" |
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How? I don't think I said anything that can be construed as "evian." |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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