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The Archivist
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: is the esl industry in decline? |
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just wondering how the demise of nova in japan, coupled with the new hoops you folks in korea are forced to jump thorugh, are making the future of the esl biz appear?
i would have thought there'd be a glut of teachers in japan looking at korea instead of going home, but then i just learned all the background check stuff.
is this the beginning of the end? |
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gmat
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| no |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| hell no |
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tomwaits
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Location: PC Bong
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| yes |
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tomwaits
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Location: PC Bong
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| hell yes |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| f*%##ghell, I hope so. |
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normalcyispasse
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps not an end, but a sea change. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| but a sea [of] change |
I agree....
But the ESL industry has been unregulated in Korea and in much of northeast Asia for so long that any change to regulate it might bring about its demise (or might as well should have...) because many of the teachers that make up the backbone of the industry are backpackers and student loanees who only come to places like Korea to work for short periods of time in order to pay back their loans or to earn enough money to move on to their next destination......
If the next government continues to impliment these strict rules (if immigrations were able to keep permanent records of visa applicants, then they wouldn't seem so....strict), you might see more ads than people filling them.
Besides, I know that in Korea, the 2 biggest multimillion-dollar industries are ESL education and prostitution..... |
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bobbyhanlon
Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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financially no, morally yes...
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| but a sea [of] change |
why the 'of'? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| but a sea [of] change |
why the 'of'? |
Obviously he's not familiar with the term 'sea change'.
I guess the ESL industry is in decline after all. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| It's the last day for someone every day. As to the industry, it will find a a lvelling off point somewhere or another. |
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mysteriousdeltarays
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Food Pyramid Bldg. 5F, 77 Sunset Strip, Alphaville
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Hell yes! It has been going down hill steadily since the arrival of Canadians on work/study visas in Japan.
And the six months they give Canadians in Taiwan and Korea.
It has been plunging for a long while. Look at the bogus EFL certificates being flashed at you every time you enter this site.
It has become a joke. If you are a Canadian under the age of 30 there are certain options open to you in Japan.
Well I'd say the same here in Korea or Taiwan although you are getting a little old for and over educated in Taiwan if you can type.
There is always South East Asia on a TEFL certificate that won't be accepted. Just click the flashing ad.
You could get married to say a Thai girl! Then you could set up a web site.
Better yet as a Canadian (no doubt) you could help small children in and out of their clothing as a dive instructor.
Wouldn't that be a thrill? |
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Dexter Sword
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Location: London
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Weird this board sometimes, OBVIOUSLY efl is in decline in Japan and Korea because of the falling birth rate, where its on the rise in Eastern Europe, South East Asia, and will continue to shift its markets until the entire world speaks English.
It remains however, a sodding lousy career choice, so its still advisable to get out of it if you can. hell yeah. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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japan never had a scene like they do here anyway..
Korea is crazy about education..
if anything they will need more teachers next year..
the scene is only getting bigger!!!
ITS A MONSTER!!! |
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makemischief
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Dexter Sword wrote: |
It remains however, a sodding lousy career choice, so its still advisable to get out of it if you can. hell yeah. |
5 month vacations and 12 hours of work (at the uni level) a week with decent savings is a terrible career choice?
perhaps not a final choice, for sure, but terms like that do make it a nice stepping stone.  |
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