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Korea to students: Don't e-mail foreigners?
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Korea to students: Don't e-mail foreigners? Reply with quote

Why exactly to Korean e-mail services block e-mails from non-Korean accounts?

Do they want to discourage Koreans from communicating with non-Koreans?

This would be pretty ironic considering all the trouble and expense Koreans are going through to learn English. But if most Koreans try e-mailing a person from an English speaking country, they get ... nothing. And vice versa. No failure notice. Nothing.

The message this sends to Koreans, especially students, it seems to me, is it's OK to use your English in a school setting or with other Koreans, but don't use your English to communicate with foreigners.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got in trouble last week because of this. I sent my boss an e-mail (he's on yahoo.co.kr) and it bounced back to me. Unfortunately for him, I was asking for a day off, and I took his silence to be tacit approval.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its an old ajosshi trick.

Its designed to prevent korean women from communicating and forming relationships with foreigners.


Don't ask for emails. just get phone numbers.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this true? I had a failed email delivery earlier this weeK when replying to someone. I use hotmail, and now that I think about it this has only happened when answering a Korean email account.

WTF?
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agentX



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's slightly inaccurate.
The e-mail service called hanmail.net is incompatible with Microsoft's Hotmail.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Hanmail

As to why that is, I have no clue. Perhaps it's a Protocol level incompatibility.
But, you'd figure this would be fixed by now. One of my co-teachers told me of the workaround for this; they all have non-hanmail accounts. I've never heard of a problem with Naver e-mail, but perhaps someone here has.

Sometimes, the person may have the spam filter up too high. God knows how many messages have been lost worldwide because of that. Here they even get spam text messages on cell-phones.

But I've gotten e-mails from Naver accounts and other in-country accounts.
Maybe it's a governmental thing.
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:

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Is this true? I had a failed email delivery earlier this weeK when replying to someone. I use hotmail, and now that I think about it this has only happened when answering a Korean email account.

WTF?


Would I lie to you?

But seriously, what e-mail service were you trying to send to? My experience is that hanmail is the worst. When I was back home, my yahoo account would not communicate with hanmail.

I am not entirely sure what the problem is, how much of it is not being able to send to them, and how much is their not being able to send to us. And I wonder whether you can get an e-mail to work one day, and then weeks later, it won't work.

This matter of yahoo.co.kr bothers me. That's the first I had heard of this one.

If anyone has ideas on ways to avoid this problem, speak up.

My best suggestion is to get a new account here with a neutral e-mail provider, like gmail. This results in the account being linked to a Korean internet server.

But there is still the risk that we sometimes won't be able to e-mail from a Korea based account to an e-mail address back home.
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ryouga013



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have problems with my American account to a Korean account but damned if my Japanese account was stopped on multiple occasions.
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cunning_stunt



Joined: 16 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bollocks...never had this problem at all .
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flummuxt wrote:
caniff wrote:

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Is this true? I had a failed email delivery earlier this weeK when replying to someone. I use hotmail, and now that I think about it this has only happened when answering a Korean email account.

WTF?


Would I lie to you?

But seriously, what e-mail service were you trying to send to?


prumail.co.kr Confused
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've emailed many people in Korea... only had troubles between my Hotmail and their Hanmail.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

same as Captain Corea.


edit: no, wait. one time i had a bounce-back when i emailed a hanmail account from yahoo.com as well. i've only had one or two hotmail emails actually get through to hanmail.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I regularly receive emails from hanmail to my gmail account. I'm curious, if you try to send an email to a hanmail account, and it doesn't work, does it get sent to you with a "delivery failure" message? Or does it just get lost?
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flummuxt



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:

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I regularly receive emails from hanmail to my gmail account. I'm curious, if you try to send an email to a hanmail account, and it doesn't work, does it get sent to you with a "delivery failure" message? Or does it just get lost?


As I said, my Korea-based gmail account seems to work the best. But even so, sometimes I have mailed a hanmail account, and when I didn't hear anything back, I checked with the teacher and found that it never arrived. No failure notification, though. As far as I know, I get stuff OK to gmail.

There may be more than one type of problem involved. Maybe stuff just gets lost in the mail randomly going to korean e-mail accounts - who knows.

What makes it more confusing is that many Koreans are uncomfortable writing back in English, for obvious reasons.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:
That's slightly inaccurate.
The e-mail service called hanmail.net is incompatible with Microsoft's Hotmail.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Hanmail

As to why that is, I have no clue. Perhaps it's a Protocol level incompatibility.
But, you'd figure this would be fixed by now. One of my co-teachers told me of the workaround for this; they all have non-hanmail accounts. I've never heard of a problem with Naver e-mail, but perhaps someone here has.

Sometimes, the person may have the spam filter up too high. God knows how many messages have been lost worldwide because of that. Here they even get spam text messages on cell-phones.

But I've gotten e-mails from Naver accounts and other in-country accounts.
Maybe it's a governmental thing.


Considering Hanmail is probably the biggest e-mail provider in this country, it is unacceptable.

Also, sometimes Hotmail to Hanmail works for a few months, and then it's blocked.
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Justin Hale



Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I'm being rather dim and have fundamental misconceptions about what this thread is about, but I communicate with Koreans on a daily basis via a non-Korean server.
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