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bassexpander · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/16/top-clinton-adviser-says-superdelegates-will-decide-election-obamas-victories-irrelevant/

This is a desperation attempt. Hillary sees herself losing, if she's willing to risk pissing off people by saying this.

She's basically telling Democrats, "Vote for me now, because if you don't, I'm going to cash in a whole lot chips others owe me to win this thing."

This is getting nasty really, really fast.

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

Bass,

I don't think that's going to happen. I'm optimisitc it's not even going to be a factor if Tuesday's outcome goes how I think it will.

I'd already seen the statement (although it wasn't through Fox it was through a newspaper) earlier today.

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I don't think the superdelegates are going to be the deciding factor either. Obama is going to win, and win big in the next few weeks and Clinton will continue to weaken, probably to the point of dropping out.

stillnotking · Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Location: Oregon, USA

The Clintons tend to assume that the super delegates who have endorsed Hillary have some kind of rock-ribbed loyalty to her that will preclude them switching their votes. It's bunk, of course; the Clinton family's sense of what the party owes them is far out of step with what the party thinks, and no super delegate wants to play spoiler (especially those whose constituencies voted for Obama).

I agree with Ya-Ta: it's not going to come to that. Obama will pick up enough of a pledged delegate lead that the Clinton camp won't have even their current, weak case for super delegate support, the supers will jump ship, and that's all she wrote.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

I hope FLA and Mich people get their say.

Captain Corea · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul

Czarjorge · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject:

I hope Michigan and Florida DON'T get their say. What is wrong with holding people accountable? I've gone from respecting the Clintons to loathing them in four short months.

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Czarjorge · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I don't believe it's right to disenfranchize people, especially when the average citizen had nothing to do with the infraction. It would be unfair to Obama to seat the delegates chosen in the original primaries, because he respected the decision.

The DNC should re-schedule primaries in Michigan and Florida, if it becomes clear their votes could determine a winner between Clinton and Obama.

I'm in agreement with:

stillnotking · Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Location: Oregon, USA

The DNC offered to reschedule new primaries and even pay for them. Florida & Michigan wouldn't go for it -- after all, that would negate the whole foundation of their little power play.

The best we can hope for is that the nominee is decided before the convention, and that the DNC wakes up, smells the coffee, and totally revamps the rules after November.

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

I also thought it was pretty much a given that Hiliary is going to win this thing through the superdelegate system.

I want Obama to win it just as much as the next guy, and will be disappointed if he doesn't, but I've already resigned it to the fact it'll be Clinton vs McCain come November (sadly).