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marlow
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 Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: EPIK GETs: A New Insult and a View of the Future? |
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THE DOCUMENT IS HERE
Guest English Teachers? GETs? Looks like they are trying to dumb down their program. I wonder when they'll put the three year cap on like JET, and call us ALTs. How's Hong Kong these days? |
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agoodmouse
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| That's not good. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| agoodmouse wrote: |
| That's not good. |
It just sounds so dismissive, doesn't it? I'm going to guess the salaries will remain the same for next year as well. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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To which document do your refer?
I see nothing in the link provided.
Could you quote the clause to which you have some objection? |
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rhinocharge64
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Here, here ma lord!!!!!!!!!! |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
To which document do your refer?
I see nothing in the link provided.
Could you quote the clause to which you have some objection? |
Just click on the file listed next to where it says File #2 in the gray box. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Aftercare
- handle problematic GETs
- replace any open vacancies within six months of the contract period
- GET counseling
Additional Conditions
- thorough examination of required documents. (verification of falsified, fabricated documents)
- a complete screening of applicant's qualifications and competence during the interview
- a reliable follow-up management for hired applicants |
I love the parts in bold. I hope they pay these guys well to take all the blame for everything. |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Someone let chicken little loose again? |
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Mark7
Joined: 22 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I saw that in the contract.
GETs? Well, I guess they are starting to realize that we're not all qualified to be "native," whatever that means.
Take your pick, "guest" has a more negative or positive connotation. |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| That title's always been changing I think. I was called a NSET last year, this year I think I'm called something else. It gives the people upstairs something to do and makes them look productive enough to keep their jobs. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
| Someone let chicken little loose again? |
I was just hoping that in the future the program might take a turn towards the better in terms of attracting qualified people and rewarding them for staying on. Instead it appears they are moving towards Japan's JET program, where the foreigner is a robot.
I'm still waiting for the maximum salary to go up. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I still don't see a problem.
Recruiters are being asked to recruit quality personnel and then follow up.
When I was managing computer integration projects a few years back I
expected the recruiters that were sending me talent to send good
qualified engineers, and when I got substandard talent I held the recruiter
responsible. When a bad apple showed up the recruiter was notified the
recruiter did the firing and the recruiter ate the days wages.
As far the GETS moniker what is wrong with that gusest english teacher is
not much worse than native english teacher or foriegn english teacher.
Lets find something with real substance to complain about. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="marlow"]
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Aftercare
- handle problematic GETs |
i think i may be a problematic GET, i'm going to ask about my severance payment next week  |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| Lets find something with real substance to complain about. |
Sure thing.
No, you can't have a raise, after all, you're just a guest teacher.
We would like to give you a nicer apartment, but you're just temporary, a guest.
Of course you have to come in and warm your chair during the school vacation, because you're not a real teacher, you're just a guest.
I don't like "assistant", "guest", "part-time" or "servant".
I do like the ELI - English Language Instructor.
I'd prefer "foreign English expert", then I could be paid my worth. |
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aarontendo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| chances are the people in charge of ya at the school won't even know what guest means. |
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