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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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 Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Whiny Newbies - Take your lumps... |
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When I started my first gig, I was getting paid 1.5MIL a month, I worked Saturdays, I had split shifts, NO vacation days, I walked uphill both ways and on and on...
After a year, I knew the ropes a little better and got a better gig. Then, I got an even better gig. Now, almost 8 years later, I have THE gig.
Newbies, take your lumps and stop whining.
Thank you.
Note - Maybe I'm just an old, crusty, grumpy old-timer, but the whining from newbies on Dave's has reached ridiculous heights. "Oh no!!! I have to work 9 40-minute classes a day PLUS preparing! AND I have to take attendance every class - Woe is me..."  |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Good point.
Still, let's not confuse "taking your lumps" with "getting your arse reamed". There are times when newbies really do get screwed. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Good point.
Still, let's not confuse "taking your lumps" with "getting your arse reamed". There are times when newbies really do get screwed. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Good point.
Still, let's not confuse "taking your lumps" with "getting your arse reamed". There are times when newbies really do get screwed. |
Maybe it's spring and the yellow dust is doing funny things, but this is just the latest in a line of things that are giving me wood these last few days. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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It's pretty good advice. All you'll ever find in Korea is the sweetening syrup or at best the little sachets, so it's a good idea to bring a few cubes with you when you come over. They're not just for ponies you know.
And you can forget about finding organic, unprocessed, brown sugar. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Good point.
Still, let's not confuse "taking your lumps" with "getting your arse reamed". There are times when newbies really do get screwed. |
Maybe it's spring and the yellow dust is doing funny things, but this is just the latest in a line of things that are giving me wood these last few days. |
Whiny newbies turn you on?  |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Hanson wrote: |
| the_beaver wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
Good point.
Still, let's not confuse "taking your lumps" with "getting your arse reamed". There are times when newbies really do get screwed. |
Maybe it's spring and the yellow dust is doing funny things, but this is just the latest in a line of things that are giving me wood these last few days. |
Whiny newbies turn you on? |
I'm not sure if it's the whine or the new... |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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If you get lumps eat Kimchi.
Korea is as sweet as it's coffee.
Nuff said! |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Whiny Newbies - Take your lumps... |
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| Hanson wrote: |
When I started my first gig, I was getting paid 1.5MIL a month, I worked Saturdays, I had split shifts, NO vacation days, I walked uphill both ways and on and on...
After a year, I knew the ropes a little better and got a better gig. Then, I got an even better gig. Now, almost 8 years later, I have THE gig.
Newbies, take your lumps and stop whining.
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I don't get the logic of your argument.
P1. You had it bad
P2. It got better for you
C1. Newbies shouldn't complain.
Do you realize why that's stupid?
Just because you had it bad means nothing, and personally I couldn't give a shit about what you went through, nor does anybody else. Nobody cares that you made 1.5M won per month. It doesn't matter and it doesn't make a point.
Then there's a tonne of backslappers saying "good point" after your post. What point? "Don't whine?" How is that a "point"? It's just an order. There would have to be some type of logical argument with a conclusion that isn't just a baseless commandment in order for a point to exist. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| My first job in Korea was far from perfect, but I liked the fact that I was only there for seven hours a day. Now I'm searching for jobs, and I'll admit it: I'll see a job and think, "What! They expect me to be there for nine hours a day!" I just applied for a job today that's 12:00 - 5:30 MWF and 2:00 - 5:30 TTH. It's 100,000 won less than some of the jobs I've been applying for, but I can deal with that. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: Whiny Newbies - Take your lumps... |
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| Hanson wrote: |
When I started my first gig, I was getting paid 1.5MIL a month, I worked Saturdays, I had split shifts, NO vacation days, I walked uphill both ways and on and on...
After a year, I knew the ropes a little better and got a better gig. Then, I got an even better gig. Now, almost 8 years later, I have THE gig.
Newbies, take your lumps and stop whining.
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I don't get the logic of your argument.
P1. You had it bad
P2. It got better for you
C1. Newbies shouldn't complain.
Do you realize why that's stupid?
Just because you had it bad means nothing, and personally I couldn't give a *beep* about what you went through, nor does anybody else. Nobody cares that you made 1.5M won per month. It doesn't matter and it doesn't make a point.
Then there's a tonne of backslappers saying "good point" after your post. What point? "Don't whine?" How is that a "point"? It's just an order. There would have to be some type of logical argument with a conclusion that isn't just a baseless commandment in order for a point to exist. |
Wah wah wah...
The point is, newbie, take your lumps and stop complaining. I've been there, done that, and I didn't complain like a crybaby. I made less than the noobs do now, and I walked uphill both ways!!! Most posters here have gone through the first-year crap jobs, and we didn't have a "foreigner's help center" or information like you noobs do now. We took our lumps and moved on.
The point is, noobs complain about contracts they signed.
Do you "get the point" now? |
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ceesgetdegrees
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Whiny Newbies - Take your lumps... |
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| Hanson wrote: |
| Whiny newbie wrote: |
| Hanson wrote: |
When I started my first gig, I was getting paid 1.5MIL a month, I worked Saturdays, I had split shifts, NO vacation days, I walked uphill both ways and on and on...
After a year, I knew the ropes a little better and got a better gig. Then, I got an even better gig. Now, almost 8 years later, I have THE gig.
Newbies, take your lumps and stop whining.
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I don't get the logic of your argument.
P1. You had it bad
P2. It got better for you
C1. Newbies shouldn't complain.
Do you realize why that's stupid?
Just because you had it bad means nothing, and personally I couldn't give a *beep* about what you went through, nor does anybody else. Nobody cares that you made 1.5M won per month. It doesn't matter and it doesn't make a point.
Then there's a tonne of backslappers saying "good point" after your post. What point? "Don't whine?" How is that a "point"? It's just an order. There would have to be some type of logical argument with a conclusion that isn't just a baseless commandment in order for a point to exist. |
Wah wah wah...
The point is, newbie, take your lumps and stop complaining. I've been there, done that, and I didn't complain like a crybaby. I made less than the noobs do now, and I walked uphill both ways!!! Most posters here have gone through the first-year crap jobs, and we didn't have a "foreigner's help center" or information like you noobs do now. We took our lumps and moved on.
The point is, noobs complain about contracts they signed.
Do you "get the point" now? |
Having been in country as long as you have then you know what a bunch of swindling, incomeptent, over bearing, crooks hagwon bosses generally tend to be. I tend to agree with the "toughen up and work through things in the process of bettering yourself" mentality, but that only works when there's a level playing field, and korea's about as level as the hills you were walking up and down to and from work. It's all the luck of the draw, korea can be a real kunt of a place to live at times and crappy work conditions only magnify those negative feelings meaning forums like this one attract a fair share of gripes. There's been a big number of old hands giving up the ghost and saying adieu to korea of late, the place wasn't that great to start and the immigration changes have for some made the place not worthwhile coming to. |
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Mosley
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