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Mad Cow Facts or Fiction?
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justin moffatt



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Mad Cow Facts or Fiction? Reply with quote
Can anyone verify the validity of his claims in this article? How reputable is this "natural news" website? For some reason, my conspiracy theorist warning bells are ringing . . .


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2008/06/198_26015.html
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it's from a korean english newspaper...

You doubt people come down with a human variant of BSE?
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justin moffatt



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No. I am requesting validation of claims regarding misdiagnosis of BSE and USA beef policies.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is no "mad cow." The Korean agricultural-industrial complex, and its clever agents such as this Whitaker, created "the mad cow" threat to intimidate and control its own people, to justify its inflated budget, and as a plausible pretext to embark on an agricultural-industrial complex imperialist program -- especially in Dokdo. Ask yourself, Justin: who benefits from "mad cow?" And why is the Korean agricultural-industrial-complex-controlled media engaging in this daily, Orwellian-style Two Minutes Hate propaganda against the so-called American beef lobby?

Have you even been to this "America?" And do you think all of this occurs as mere coincidence... Question
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The US farm lobby, esp the meat packers, have a lot of political influence. If Fast Food Nation is to be believed, the USA is well behind most of the western world in terms of testing.

The 1997 paper doesn't indicate that CJD is being misdiagnosed in the real world. It was merely a test of diagnostic methods:

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The accuracy of the clinical diagnosis of corticobasal degeneration (CBD) is unknown. To determine its diagnostic accuracy, we presented 105 cases with known neuropathologic diagnoses...as clinical vignettes to six neurologists unaware of the autopsy findings.

Although the validity of the clinical diagnosis might have been improved if neurologists could have examined these patients, more important is that this disorder was misdiagnosed by the primary neurologists.


How often does this happen in the real world? Alzheimer's is usually diagnosed while the patient is alive, based upon some subjective criteria and upon elimination of other possible causes. A final determination is made upon death. CJD and Alzheimer's may well have very different symptoms. One should truly present a mix of CJD and Alzheimer's patients for testing as well.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ummm...don't only elderly people get Alzheimers? Mad cow would affect teenyboppers who eat hamburgers.

What are the statistics showing an upsurge of 20-year olds with mushy brains?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Besides South Korea, where else do American beef exports go? And what is going on there?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
They (meaning, those who got caught up in this) sure get whipped into an emotional hysteria easily.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, they do. And they are certainly beating their drums right now. Some call it "nationalism."
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, nationalism. But more. It is an ethnic nationalism nicely peppered with an acute victim complex, made stronger by an aggressive racial superiority complex. In addition to an oddly emotional culture, herd mentality, and wacky media.

It must be exhausting to be an ethnocentric, permanently victimized, herd following nationalist who constantly emotes like a so-cal emo suburban white kid.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mark Whitaker wrote:
Probably a lot of Americans -- and many others worldwide -- have been killed due to American beef...


I remain interested in specific figures from reliable sources, especially with respect to American beef in places besides South Korea.
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Jandar



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Ummm...don't only elderly people get Alzheimers? Mad cow would affect teenyboppers who eat hamburgers.

What are the statistics showing an upsurge of 20-year olds with mushy brains?


Though very rare Alzheimers has appeared in young victims. I