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Korean gov't replacing urine test with hair test for E-2
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Korean gov't replacing urine test with hair test for E-2 Reply with quote

This has turned out to be a very bad thing for some.

In a new twist to the recently-removed cannabis test, the ministry today noted that they will now collect a small hair sample from all incoming teachers upon application for their ARC. According to the immigration website, there were too many complaints about difficulties in getting the correct urine test done.

It was initially reported that the 혈액내 약물의 존재 test would be dropped all together, however to ease entry of teachers, hair samples will be taken with results to follow soon after.

The site said that this will relieve the stress on schools of trying to get the check done in advance of an E-2 application and further streamline the process.

For more information, see http://www.immigration.go.kr/indeximmeng.html and click on 고용전 검사 (E-2).

There is also this line, which says something about hair/DNA testing and disease, but my korean isn't good enough to figure it out: 예를 들면, 사람의 머리카락 하나에서 추출된 DNA는 질병과 관련된 개인의 유전적인 성향을 유망한 고용주나 건강 보험관리자들에게 알림으로써 경계심을 갖도록 하는데 충분할 수도 있다.


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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean gov't replacing urine test with hair test Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
This has turned out to be a very bad thing for some.

In a new twist to the recently-removed cannabis test, the ministry today noted that they will not\w collect a small hair sample from all incoming teachers upon application for their ARC. According to the immigration website, there were too many complaints about difficulties in getting the correct urine test done.

It was initially reported that the 혈액내 약물의 존재 test would be dropped all together, however to ease entry of teachers, hair samples will be taken with results to follow soon after.

The site said that this will relieve the stress on schools of trying to get the check done in advance of an E-2 application and further streamline the process.

For more information, see http://www.immigration.go.kr/indeximmeng.html and click on 고용전 검사 (E-2).

There is also this line, which says something about hair/DNA testing and disease, but my korean isn't good enough to figure it out: 예를 들면, 사람의 머리카락 하나에서 추출된 DNA는 질병과 관련된 개인의 유전적인 성향을 유망한 고용주나 건강 보험관리자들에게 알림으로써 경계심을 갖도록 하는데 충분할 수도 있다.


I don't do drugs, never have and never will. Not even marijuana. But someone who did it 3 months ago in their home country being denied a visa is just stupid.
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this an April Fools day joke? Hair testing is even more expensive than urine testing.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess it's better than having to go to a hospital and hearing a nurse say, "어서 빨리 해요! 쑥스럽다고 할 생각은 하지 말고"
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering why they didn't do this to begin with since I've heard the legal columnist in the Korea Times talk about how, anytime one is in police custody, the police will get such a hair sample, legal or not, and check you out for drug use.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only place I guess I've ever heard that such a hair test was so prohibitively expensive was on Dave's.
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Suwoner10



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn. I predict new, short hair styles throughout the fer'ner community.


This is an April Fool's gag, right?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the link for yourself.

There is a question/answer area, and someone asked, "What will happen to teachers whose hair tests positive for drug use?"

The answer was: "제가 애들을 아주 단단히 혼내주도록 하겠습니다 "

Translation: The will receive a severe punishment.
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agoodmouse



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the complaints really boil down to is: "Ah, man, we can't have been recent drug users!"
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WoBW



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Translation: The will receive a severe punishment.


It's absurd for them to say this. What if you test positive for a smoke you had in your home countries months earlier. How can they prove that you committed any drug offence IN KOREA from a hair sample.

Refusing a visa is one thing, but they have no right to hand out a severe punsishment for an offence that can't be proven.
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wings



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What the complaints really boil down to is: "Ah, man, we can't have been recent drug users!"


Not really, if you have long hair then this could potentially mean that even if you had done drugs YEARS ago they would still know.
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blackjack



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens if you have no hair (including body hair Laughing )
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call BS/April Fool's.

The link is to the English-language Immi homepage, and there's no Korean to be found there. There's also no link entitled "고용전 검사 (E-2)" on the Korean-language homepage.

Come on people, look at the calendar!
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eac02



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my wisdom teeth pulled last month and took vicodin (that the doctor prescribed)for the pain. So that means I would fail, thats not fair.

Does dying your hair make a difference on the test?
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am wondering how accurate the test is...is it specific for cannabis, or is it a catch all that it would pick up traces of prescription/legal drugs one did not claim on applications, etc., to not appear unhealthy....and would it pick up legally used herbal tinctures (phytoestrogens) and think they were cannabis.

So even if I do nothing illegal would the test turn it around and say I was using some drug?
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