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Starla

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: For the women...is marrying a Korean man possible for me? |
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Matman
Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: For the women...is marrying a Korean man possible for me |
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Starla wrote: |
I'm beautiful and I look so young...18 from certain angles he tells me...bless his lying heart!
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I know the angle he's thinking of.  |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I am sorry that you have experienced this - some Koreans are real racists..
But what he said is true... you can meet nice blokes here in Korea with parents who will welcome you with open arms!
Just make sure you meet them after all the mad cow business has died down!!! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Move on.
Many Korean men tell their women they want to marry from about day 1. It's very, very common.
You're setting yourself up to waste the last of your most sexually attractive years. Sorry to be blunt, but it's the truth.
My former coworker went through this same situation, and after 2 years, found out her Korean man had a Korean girlfriend on the side.
Identical situation.
If after you break it off, and he begs to get you back, tell him you refuse to meet him again unless it's to meet his parents to plan marriage. Otherwise, you'll become his little sex toy on the side while he searches for a mate of Korean heritage. |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think that if your goal is to get a Korean man, then you can do it. A lot of the female teachers here (and in Asia) have no luck with men because they are not interested in the locals. They are usually only interested in western men who while here are only interested in the locals.
Living with the in-laws is not so bad either. You gotta try it first and then decide if you like it or not. For me, it means that I don't have to cook K food (which I am incompetent at), there's extra company, it's good for practicing Korean and you'll probably get a house bought and paid for.
A lot of my husband's friends are looking for foreign spouses. They are always trying to get me to hook them up.
So I'd say the odds are good.
Check out http://www.iskakorea.com/. |
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cisco kid

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: Outlaws had us pinned down at the fort
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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He was just using you to practice his English.
The whole 'disown' thing is a power play. Once they actually get married, 98% of the parents accept it. Same thing happened when I married my wife 10 years ago. The minute her plane landed in LA and we called the family to let them know that we'd been married, they accepted it and wanted to visit my family. They'll do/say anything to prevent it from happening beforehand, but once the deed is done, they come into line pretty fast.
Most Korean children know this, so him accepting what his parents told him about your relationship is pretty freakin weak imo. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Some parents are very traditional. Others are not. My wife's father would never have allowed her to marry me. He died, and her mother doesn't care. I came along after the father's death, so it was never an issue.
By the way, it's an interesting phenomena that western men aren't so interested in marriage. I'd like to explore that issue more. Tell us more about your friends and their problems. |
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gajackson1

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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That's awful, and sorry it happened to you - but that knife does cut both ways . . .
When I first came here, in the years before I met Christina, I dated a LOT of Korean women. 2 serious (to me) relationships were broken, because the families would not accept me being non-Korean. Some other dating partners strictly wanted me as the 'foreigner mantoy/boytoy' - to show off to their friends or scandalize their social lives (seems to be a lot of that type on some of the K-oriented dating sites).
Who you really need to hear from are some of the western-women-with-K-husbands here, and get their takes. For us, we have 1 friend who is married & mostly miserable; another woman (in her 50s) is married & back with her husband in the States. It is rough on them, but they seem happy & are really trying to make it work.
As a final note, if marriage IS your goal, then get a bilingual friend to help you register/put up ads on some of the K sites. I'm fairly sure you will be swamped with offers, & will just have to separate the wheat from the chaff! (or rice from the stalk, as it may be)
Good luck! |
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Sobee
Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Location: Songsan-myeon
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: Korean men |
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I enjoyed reading your post! This seems to be a topic which isn't brought up alot, but is something I think about myself. While stationed in Korea in 1999-2000, I went on a few dates with a Korean man who I met while attending a Korean-American Bible study on base. I was only 21 at the time, and wasn't sure what I wanted yet. He was wonderful, and asked me a few times if I would ever consider marrying a Korean. I told him sure! But, I wasn't ready to get married then and of course didn't pursue him beyond a good friendship. (Now I wish I did!) I didn't meet his parents or anything so I can't help you there, but I do remember when we went on the date, we got some strange looks from the waiters at the restaurant. Our waiter even spilled my water..on purpose! But I agree with you about the committment thing and Korean men. I'm actually getting ready to go back to Korea, 8 years later from when I was there the first time! I will be leaving in July for a one year contract, teaching at a homeschool and am very excited to return to this country. (I'm now out of the military!) I do hope I will meet a Korean as awesome as the one I met before:) He was so cute too! Anyway, I hope you will find what you are looking for over there. Don't give up, and do what you have a desire for. I am thirty, and also feel that time crunch a little now, but timing is everything! Korea is fascinating, and the people are amazing in that they have really deep roots in their culture and ways of living which I find refreshing. Although, as you have experienced, this can be a road block to potentially great relationships, but there are still pleny of good ones left who have parents that are more in tune with how the world is "flat" and also embrace other cultures.
BTW: I'm glad there is at least one other American women who wants to marry a Korean! |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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too many of my friends are in situations where they're an dating an American man for years and they still don't know where they stand. |
For what it's worth I've never understood this dithering thing from women. I think too many are still living in Soap Opera Fantasy Land.
If you want to know if you're wasting your time with a guy you find the cojones that have been so obviously misplaced for years and you put the screws to him. Yes or no. Really simple. Be ready to hit the road. In fact hitting the road first usually produces the desired result, state your case but do it with a smile (no scenes) and like you've got 2 million other things to do (well don't you?) and he has just become "back burner" on your stove---many NA men are strange that way--leave 'em and they usually come shuffling back making the right noises. Don't leave them and they'll seldom commit.
Life is too short to sit around waiting for any man. Don't make it so easy for them to waste your time. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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cisco kid wrote: |
The whole 'disown' thing is a power play. Once they actually get married, 98% of the parents accept it. Same thing happened when I married my wife 10 years ago. The minute her plane landed in LA and we called the family to let them know that we'd been married, they accepted it and wanted to visit my family. They'll do/say anything to prevent it from happening beforehand, but once the deed is done, they come into line pretty fast.
Most Korean children know this, so him accepting what his parents told him about your relationship is pretty freakin weak imo. |
I agree with this. It might be hard, but a Korean really has to be firm when dealing with her/her parents if they are putting up a fight based on the non-Korean thing.
My husband is the eldest son and grandson. He fought with his parents for over six months. They spoke once a week during that time and it was usually heated arguments. They hadn't even met me yet. His father actually threw the entire breakfast table one day. I know it was very hard for my husband. But he stuck with it.
After his parents finally agreed to meet me, they loved me and wanted us to tie the knot ASAP. These are very, very traditional people from the Andong/Mungyung area. I have a great relationship with my in-laws now, despite the language barrier. I would still never live with them. But that's a personal thing.
I was a little worried about the having kids thing, you know, mixed race, and all, but we were all out for dinner a few months ago and my mother-in-law spotted a cute little half Korean girl and couldn't stop exclaiming how beautiful she was. Talk about a turn-around. Now we're expecting our first and they're over the moon...
It comes down to the guy's committment. If you feel he's wishy-washy about standing up to his parents, it probably won't work. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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canuckistan wrote: |
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too many of my friends are in situations where they're an dating an American man for years and they still don't know where they stand. |
For what it's worth I've never understood this dithering thing from women. I think too many are still living in Soap Opera Fantasy Land.
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I have a feeling that so many women living around in Oprah land, the after-effects of feminism and divorce, combined with the fact that many men feel content with porn, have pretty much killed-off a lot of the interest many men have in getting married.
My mother once told me that due to some of these issues, she wasn't surprised when I told her I wasn't interested in getting married (was about 5 years ago). |
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Stevie_B
Joined: 14 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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gajackson1 wrote: |
That's awful, and sorry it happened to you - but that knife does cut both ways . . .
When I first came here, in the years before I met Christina, I dated a LOT of Korean women. 2 serious (to me) relationships were broken, because the families would not accept me being non-Korean. Some other dating partners strictly wanted me as the 'foreigner mantoy/boytoy' - to show off to their friends or scandalize their social lives (seems to be a lot of that type on some of the K-oriented dating sites).
Who you really need to hear from are some of the western-women-with-K-husbands here, and get their takes. For us, we have 1 friend who is married & mostly miserable; another woman (in her 50s) is married & back with her husband in the States. It is rough on them, but they seem happy & are really trying to make it work.
As a final note, if marriage IS your goal, then get a bilingual friend to help you register/put up ads on some of the K sites. I'm fairly sure you will be swamped with offers, & will just have to separate the wheat from the chaff! (or rice from the stalk, as it may be)
Good luck! |
Who the *beep*'s Christina? Do we know you? |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
The fact that many men feel content with porn, have pretty much killed-off a lot of the interest many men have in getting married.
My mother once told me that due to some of these issues, she wasn't surprised when I told her I wasn't interested in getting married (was about 5 years ago). |
I think her lack of surprise was was for other reasons....  |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Some parents are very traditional. Some open foreign spouses with open arms and no problem.
Every western woman I've known (in real life) with a Korean man had parents in the middle, leaning towards traditional. And their boyfriends/husbands just kept driving the point home that they WOULD get married. All of them are eldest (usually only) sons, too.
If you have a boyfriend who is willing to fight for you and stand up for you, no problem. But if he's NOT willing to partner with YOU, then leave.
MANY of my (Korean) coworkers told me that my boyfriend is "a very bad son, which means he will be a very good husband." A bit simplistic, but largely true in my experience and my friends' experiences. |
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