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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: What would you tell these students? |
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I am teaching a workshop for uni students who will be going abroad (mostly to the US) for a one year internship. I have 2 male students who are rather effeminate, and I see them occassionally holding hands during class among other things.
Would you tell these students to avoid this behavior in public while in the states? |
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IncognitoHFX

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: What would you tell these students? |
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| ytuque wrote: |
Would you tell these students to avoid this behavior in public while in the states? |
Depends, are they going to San Francisco or Utah? |
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Newbie

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I would warn them in as polite a way as possible.
Make it sound like what they're doing is okay, but that Yanks are freaky and won't understand. |
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M-su
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I would tell them to read my awesome thread! |
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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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They could be going to any number of cities in the US. I am primarily worried about their physical safety, and secondly, they do need to fit into whatever work environment they find themselves.
There is a possibility of getting into trouble if I have a discussion with them about this, regardless of whether it's a polite or very blunt discussion. Many Koreans refuse to believe that there are Korean homosexuals, and many FTs would think that I am some anti-Korean bigot for thinking this behavior is gay. This could cause some serious problems at work. |
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garykasparov
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: What would you tell these students? |
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This is not an issue you should risk your job over.
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: What would you tell these students? |
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| ytuque wrote: |
I am teaching a workshop for uni students who will be going abroad (mostly to the US) for a one year internship. I have 2 male students who are rather effeminate, and I see them occassionally holding hands during class among other things.
Would you tell these students to avoid this behavior in public while in the states? |
ha.. the question about whether they're going to be in SF was great! hahah
the effeminacy of some young Korean males is the one thing that I never expected coming here. and still shocks the hell out of me.
I suppose some kind of cultural warning is appropriate (for their own good), but I have no idea how one would go about explaining their "gayness" to them, when to them it may not be "gayness" at all.
American "gaydar" rules don't apply in Korea. |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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They could be going to any number of cities in the US. I am primarily worried about their physical safety, and secondly, they do need to fit into whatever work environment they find themselves.
There is a possibility of getting into trouble if I have a discussion with them about this, regardless of whether it's a polite or very blunt discussion. Many Koreans refuse to believe that there are Korean homosexuals, and many FTs would think that I am some anti-Korean bigot for thinking this behavior is gay. This could cause some serious problems at work. |
smart and forward thinking on your part. Is there a Korean co worker/teacher who you are on good terms with and best yet has traveled abroad at least a little? I'd relay your concerns to them and ask them how to handle it.. and it'd be probably best for THEM to have such a conversation in private. |
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inthezone
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would tell them to get a room
Seriously though the other poster is right, leave them to it. Not your problem. Not worth the hassle and you could end up coming out the worst. |
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bogey666

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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the scary thing is they may not even be real homosexuals.
I see this in Korea (perhaps not to this extent, but similar stuff) among my male high school students all the time.
but they may not necessarily be homosexual.
Just a sub species of the average Korean male (which is frightening and amusing all at the same time) |
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Raeddie
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I remember when I first came to Korea as a soldier. It was a huge culture shock to see all the Korean male soldiers hugging and holding hands. |
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ytuque

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| The really scary thing is that they might get the sh*t kicked out of them, regardless of whether they are gay or just appear to be gay. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: What would you tell these students? |
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I am teaching a workshop for uni students who will be going abroad (mostly to the US) for a one year internship. I have 2 male students who are rather effeminate, and I see them occassionally holding hands during class among other things.
Would you tell these students to avoid this behavior in public while in the states? |
Don't tell them anything, just do a class on what is appropriate touching behavior in America or something.
I saw two fat drunk old men walking down the street holding hands the other night. Biz-arre! |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| do a lesson on western culture and what is deemed acceptable and what people find strange |
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thatwhitegirl

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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My high school students do stuff like this all the time (all-boys HS). Unless I look at them funny, no one notices. But if I look at them questioningly, they sit up straight and take their hands off each other. I don't say anything though, but they other students laugh and call them gay...which I never taught them.
Chinese do it too, as do many other Asians.
I think the idea of a class on appropriate physical behavior in western cultures is a good one. They'll find it interesting, and you can raise their awareness. |
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