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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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There is less than 10 percent separating Obama and McCain, depending on the poll.
This campaign shouldn't even be close. McCain and Palin have done virtually everything wrong.
See: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=136744
And the Republican administration of George Bush, and until two years ago, a Republican Congress, have plunged the U.S. into the worst economic mess since the Great Depression.
Yet there are actually people who are willing to put the Republicans back in the White House.
I was wondering, what would it take for the Obama-Biden campaign to convince McCain-Palin supporters to vote for them? What more can the Democrats do to get through to these people?
I'm mystified. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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He could turn out to be Jesus. That would make a few of Gopher's recent threads absolutely prophetic. 
Actually, I'm still not sure if being Jesus would be enough.  |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Speaking as a Republican and a strong supporter of John McCain since 2000.
I can say that I started listening to Obama after he defeated Hillary.
As with any election I always give both candidates a fair shake.
I consider myself a fiscal responsibilty kinda guy not conservative mind you however I have always bellieved that government should be held accountable for it's spending practices, and so I do tend to lean towrds the candidate I feel will be most responsible. I was very disappointed when McCain lost the 2000 primary to Bush, however I really really didn't like Gore, I held my nose a voted for Bush. Again in 2004 the democrats gave us John Kerry who was my Senator for many years and who I had very little faith in. It is unfortunate that McCain did not run against Bush in 2004.
Well this time out I still like John McCain he's a proven leader with tons of experience, he's charismatic he has the ability to lead and be encouraging and inspiring to others. On the down side he has that Keating 5 thing. I still think he would make a fine president.
Now at the same time I really like Obama, he's very charismatic, inspiring and he has more experience than did JFK when he was elected, I believe he will be able to attract and surround himself with the right people, on the down side there is the Bill ayers connection.
So let's call it even so far.
Now bring on the really tough decisions.
Decision #1 choose a running mate.
Okay here McCain blew it big time it took a while for me to realize how bad it was, the Katie Couric interview sealed my opinion on that. John made a bad decision, however I still felt I'd be going McCain, after all we have survived some pretty bad Vice Presidents in the past.
On the plus here for Obama he picks Biden, Joe Biden happens to be one of the few Democrats I really like, I like Charlie Rangel too but I'd never vote for him, Joe I could vote for.
Then we start gettin the AIG problem and the Bailout the nervousness and the anxiety that I saw from McCain and his camp and his inability to control the message through his running mate is really what helped me with my decision, he's not the John McCain from 2000 and that's just too bad.
The issues will be the issues from here until eternity. You vote Republican expecting to see fiscal responsibilty it ain't gonna happen. You vote democrat expecting national healthcare, it ain't gonna happen.
Vote character everytime.
I will cast my ballot for Obama. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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He could turn out to be White.
Oh, wait a minute. His grandmother is White. His mother is White.
I guess Obama just has a really good tan. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:32 am Post subject: Re: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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| Gatsby wrote: |
There is less than 10 percent separating Obama and McCain, depending on the poll.
This campaign shouldn't even be close. McCain and Palin have done virtually everything wrong.
See: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=136744
And the Republican administration of George Bush, and until two years ago, a Republican Congress, have plunged the U.S. into the worst economic mess since the Great Depression.
Yet there are actually people who are willing to put the Republicans back in the White House.
I was wondering, what would it take for the Obama-Biden campaign to convince McCain-Palin supporters to vote for them? What more can the Democrats do to get through to these people?
I'm mystified. |
If Iran and Al Qaeda gave up their war then their wouldn't be much need for a Republican administrtion
I think Obama is serious about Afghanistan but I don't think the democrats see the bigger picture which is that just about one in Al Qaeda is from Afghanstian
If the democrats are serious about national security then why is this their message?
[quote]Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs
Missilethreat.com ^ | feb29, 2008 | unknown
A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense. The video is incomplete, and its origin is unknown, although some have speculated it may have come from someone within the Hillary Clinton campaign.
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
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I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems... |
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978637/posts
Is this the right message to be sending Iran? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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First, you ought to stop essentializing "Republicans."
Next, so which Republicans do you think you might persuade? And how might you persuade them? (Hint: R. Limbaugh's dismissing C. Powell's endorsing B. Obama as "about race" represents your most profitable starting point. Do you think Powell merely speaks for Powell in the Republican Party?) |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: Re: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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[quote="Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee"]
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The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
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I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems... |
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978637/posts
Is this the right message to be sending Iran? |
The Us already has far more than enough weapons to deal with Al Quaeda and Iran. That money would be better spent on developing renewable energy in order to move towards energy independence. That issue will be far more important than Al Quaeda and the current tension with Iran in the long run. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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[quote="asylum seeker"]
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Gatsby wrote: |
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
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[b]
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems... |
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978637/posts
Is this the right message to be sending Iran? |
The Us already has far more than enough weapons to deal with Al Quaeda and Iran. That money would be better spent on developing renewable energy in order to move towards energy independence. That issue will be far more important than Al Quaeda and the current tension with Iran in the long run. |
If the US can't knock out Iran quckly without an invasion then the US doesn't have the right weapons to deal with Iran.
If the US had what it takes to deal with Iran then Iran wouldn't be so eager to go after the US whenever it has a chance.
I am all for spending on alternative energy, probably more than anyone else on the board. |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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[quote="asylum seeker"]
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Gatsby wrote: |
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
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[b]
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems... |
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978637/posts
Is this the right message to be sending Iran? |
The Us already has far more than enough weapons to deal with Al Quaeda and Iran. That money would be better spent on developing renewable energy in order to move towards energy independence. That issue will be far more important than Al Quaeda and the current tension with Iran in the long run. |
And would in fact, negate any need to go to war in Iran |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| what would it take for GOP to vote Obama? Well im a dem, but based on GOP behaviors.... re-vitilaigo??? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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[quote="rusty1983"]
| asylum seeker wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Gatsby wrote: |
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
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[b]
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems... |
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978637/posts
Is this the right message to be sending Iran? |
The Us already has far more than enough weapons to deal with Al Quaeda and Iran. That money would be better spent on developing renewable energy in order to move towards energy independence. That issue will be far more important than Al Quaeda and the current tension with Iran in the long run. |
And would in fact, negate any need to go to war in Iran |
You are right . If the US wasn't dependent on foreign oil than Iran would mean as much as Zimbabwe. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Location: Classified
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Jandar wrote: |
Speaking as a Republican and a strong supporter of John McCain since 2000.
I can say that I started listening to Obama after he defeated Hillary.
As with any election I always give both candidates a fair shake.
I consider myself a fiscal responsibilty kinda guy not conservative mind you however I have always bellieved that government should be held accountable for it's spending practices, and so I do tend to lean towrds the candidate I feel will be most responsible. I was very disappointed when McCain lost the 2000 primary to Bush, however I really really didn't like Gore, I held my nose a voted for Bush. Again in 2004 the democrats gave us John Kerry who was my Senator for many years and who I had very little faith in. It is unfortunate that McCain did not run against Bush in 2004.
Well this time out I still like John McCain he's a proven leader with tons of experience, he's charismatic he has the ability to lead and be encouraging and inspiring to others. On the down side he has that Keating 5 thing. I still think he would make a fine president.
Now at the same time I really like Obama, he's very charismatic, inspiring and he has more experience than did JFK when he was elected, I believe he will be able to attract and surround himself with the right people, on the down side there is the Bill ayers connection.
So let's call it even so far.
Now bring on the really tough decisions.
Decision #1 choose a running mate.
Okay here McCain blew it big time it took a while for me to realize how bad it was, the Katie Couric interview sealed my opinion on that. John made a bad decision, however I still felt I'd be going McCain, after all we have survived some pretty bad Vice Presidents in the past.
On the plus here for Obama he picks Biden, Joe Biden happens to be one of the few Democrats I really like, I like Charlie Rangel too but I'd never vote for him, Joe I could vote for.
Then we start gettin the AIG problem and the Bailout the nervousness and the anxiety that I saw from McCain and his camp and his inability to control the message through his running mate is really what helped me with my decision, he's not the John McCain from 2000 and that's just too bad.
The issues will be the issues from here until eternity. You vote Republican expecting to see fiscal responsibilty it ain't gonna happen. You vote democrat expecting national healthcare, it ain't gonna happen.
Vote character everytime.
I will cast my ballot for Obama. |
Well, shit, man, that's a damn fine post. I'll still be voting McCain, but you make excellent points. Would that we all could get along in just this fashion.
I salute you, sir. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take to get Republicans to vote for Obama? |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
If the US can't knock out Iran quckly without an invasion then the US doesn't have the right weapons to deal with Iran.
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The right weapons are at hand; we won't use them. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ReeseDog wrote: |
| Jandar wrote: |
Speaking as a Republican and a strong supporter of John McCain since 2000.
I can say that I started listening to Obama after he defeated Hillary.
As with any election I always give both candidates a fair shake.
I consider myself a fiscal responsibilty kinda guy not conservative mind you however I have always bellieved that government should be held accountable for it's spending practices, and so I do tend to lean towrds the candidate I feel will be most responsible. I was very disappointed when McCain lost the 2000 primary to Bush, however I really really didn't like Gore, I held my nose a voted for Bush. Again in 2004 the democrats gave us John Kerry who was my Senator for many years and who I had very little faith in. It is unfortunate that McCain did not run against Bush in 2004.
Well this time out I still like John McCain he's a proven leader with tons of experience, he's charismatic he has the ability to lead and be encouraging and inspiring to others. On the down side he has that Keating 5 thing. I still think he would make a fine president.
Now at the same time I really like Obama, he's very charismatic, inspiring and he has more experience than did JFK when he was elected, I believe he will be able to attract and surround himself with the right people, on the down side there is the Bill ayers connection.
So let's call it even so far.
Now bring on the really tough decisions.
Decision #1 choose a running mate.
Okay here McCain blew it big time it took a while for me to realize how bad it was, the Katie Couric interview sealed my opinion on that. John made a bad decision, however I still felt I'd be going McCain, after all we have survived some pretty bad Vice Presidents in the past.
On the plus here for Obama he picks Biden, Joe Biden happens to be one of the few Democrats I really like, I like Charlie Rangel too but I'd never vote for him, Joe I could vote for.
Then we start gettin the AIG problem and the Bailout the nervousness and the anxiety that I saw from McCain and his camp and his inability to control the message through his running mate is really what helped me with my decision, he's not the John McCain from 2000 and that's just too bad.
The issues will be the issues from here until eternity. You vote Republican expecting to see fiscal responsibilty it ain't gonna happen. You vote democrat expecting national healthcare, it ain't gonna happen.
Vote character everytime.
I will cast my ballot for Obama. |
Well, shit, man, that's a damn fine post. I'll still be voting McCain, but you make excellent points. Would that we all could get along in just this fashion.
I salute you, sir. |
Thank you for your understanding. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| ReeseDog wrote: |
| I'll still be voting McCain, |
Why? |
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