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Casino rule: Why Koreans can't enter
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beast



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Casino rule: Why Koreans can't enter Reply with quote

Once or twice a year I go to the Walker Hill Casino. I've never been able to figure out why Koreans can't go there. The government allows Koreans to go to the casino in KongwanLand and to one or two other one star casinos in downtown Seoul. My wife is Korean and it seems strange that they don't let her enter, yet if we wanted to do a three hour drive, we could go to the KangwanLand casino. Lucky seven and Walker Hill just don't let them in. Is it really a Korean law, or is it a casino policy?
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They had so many social problems from that one casino that they don't want that to spread around. Koreans go crazy gambling like the Chinese and lose everything.

I also get the feeling that they like to cheat us out of our cash. I lost 2oo on the machines in Seoul and stuck around drank and watched. In the 3 hours I watched the machines did nothing but take people's money.

They are supposed to be set on 80-90 percent so I asked the guy working there and he got realy pissed off at me. The machines were set on the lowest setting of 60% and it was obvious.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
I also get the feeling that they like to cheat us out of our cash.


If you're going to a casino and haven't yet registered this fact, then you should not be going to casinos at all.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm happy the casinos in Seoul don't let the locals in. Have you seen the casino in Kangwando? It's madness and crowded. Once in a while, I like being able to sit next to another foreigner who respects personal space and has manners.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the casinos are thankful. they'd get a lot of losers just getting free drinks and food, not gambling at all. They'd treat the waitresses badly too.

The gov't is doing them a favour too. Sometimes adults need to be treated like children.
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legalizing gambling often brings about a bunch of social problems. I think Gangwon Land might be a good example of that.

The reason why they build casinos is to build tax revenue and increase tourism. By limiting entry to foreigners, they get the revenue without the social problems.
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Rob'sdad



Joined: 12 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gambling is sinful. I used to gamble like a fool until I realized it was my kid's education money.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="D.D."]They had so many social problems from that one casino that they don't want that to spread around. Koreans go crazy gambling like the Chinese and lose everything.

I also get the feeling that they like to cheat us out of our cash. I lost 2oo on the machines in Seoul and stuck around drank and watched. In the 3 hours I watched the machines did nothing but take people's money.

They are supposed to be set on 80-90 percent so I asked the guy working there and he got realy pissed off at me. The machines were set on the lowest setting of 60% and it was obvious.[/quote]

lol at your magic powers
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic powers? Can't observation yield a educated guess. If you watch 40 people bet over 40 milion won in 3 hours and nobody gets a win over 500000 my cheating metre goes crazy.

If you watch black jack at 7 luck casinos you will also notice a loss rate that compares to no other casino I have ever been in.

Also watch out for 4 Indian guys who hang out at casinos in both Busan and Seoul they try to pull scams on westerners by trying to make friends with them after they see people winning.

They will do anything from trying to sell fake watches to following people outside and asking for cash in a very mugging like way.
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DC in Suwon



Joined: 14 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
D.D. wrote:
I also get the feeling that they like to cheat us out of our cash.


If you're going to a casino and haven't yet registered this fact, then you should not be going to casinos at all.


Laughing
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course everyone knows that casinos have a odds advantage but cheating is another concept.

You are not being cheated if you know that you are playing agianst the odds. But when they start to change those odds because it is just foreigners in the casino that is a different story.

So shove that smiley face where the sun don't shine.

The guy asked why no Koreans are allowed in and I gave two of the biggest reasons.

1. They don't want social problems.

2. Tourists are not around enough to notice the scams so they can take foreigners money without feeling bad about it as they are racist pricks.

3. They know the Chinese and Japs will come over in large numbers so they can still make a lot of cash.

4. Tourists have enough money to blow and Koreans with enough money can get a passport from another country.

The casinos are full of Koreans, just not the poor ones that would eat all the free food and drink all the booze and scare away the rich foreigners.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Of course everyone knows that casinos have a odds advantage but cheating is another concept.

You are not being cheated if you know that you are playing agianst the odds. But when they start to change those odds because it is just foreigners in the casino that is a different story.



I'm calling BS. Casinos don't need to cheat. The have the odds advantage which is basically a license to print money. I don't doubt that while you were watching the slots, perhaps 40mill went in, and only 5 mill went out, however, it only takes one jackpot to correct those figures. (I don't know if you recall, but there was a guy on this forum about 6months ago who won a 40mill jackpot at walker hill and was asking how to get the money out the country, lol).

I've played quite a bit of blackjack here in Korea and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Heck, the average chinese tourist is so bad at blackjack that stacking the deck with 5s would probably hurt the casino's edge. Regarding Roullette, they offer American Roullette in Korea which is a disgrace the double zero really gives the casino a much bigger edge...but I wouldn't call it cheating/
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherside wrote:
D.D. wrote:
Of course everyone knows that casinos have a odds advantage but cheating is another concept.

You are not being cheated if you know that you are playing agianst the odds. But when they start to change those odds because it is just foreigners in the casino that is a different story.



I'm calling BS. Casinos don't need to cheat. The have the odds advantage which is basically a license to print money.
I don't doubt that while you were watching the slots, perhaps 40mill went in, and only 5 mill went out, however, it only takes one jackpot to correct those figures. (I don't know if you recall, but there was a guy on this forum about 6months ago who won a 40mill jackpot at walker hill and was asking how to get the money out the country, lol).

I've played quite a bit of blackjack here in Korea and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Heck, the average chinese tourist is so bad at blackjack that stacking the deck with 5s would probably hurt the casino's edge. Regarding Roullette, they offer American Roullette in Korea which is a disgrace the double zero really gives the casino a much bigger edge...but I wouldn't call it cheating/


Exactly.

And no, observation can't yield an educated guess in this case. Sample size too small. Method too unreliable. Study some statistics.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to staff at Busan 7 luck they have given the level 1 jackpot only once since the casino opened. They did this so they could take a picture of the guy. Thats what the staff says true or not.
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Neil



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ganwon land has no alcohol (well there's an overpriced cocktail bar a two day donkey ride from the casino floor) while Lucky Seven has free booze....might be the reason.
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