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| There is a clear political and moral difference between nationalism and Nazism |
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| B. They have similarities. |
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| C. I save my nationalism for "Hate Week", then I shut up. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: Nazism or Nationalism? |
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There is a clear political and moral difference between nationalism and Nazism.
Anyone? |
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ubermenzch
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
Location: bundang, south korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| what crowd are you addressing this nonsense to? i may be wrong, but i don't think even the most precocious of children find themselves haunting the current events boards on dave's. sorry if this seems rude, but what educated adult would disagree with OP? |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| what crowd are you addressing this nonsense to? i may be wrong, but i don't think even the most precocious of children find themselves haunting the current events boards on dave's. sorry if this seems rude, but what educated adult would disagree with OP? |
This is Dave's ESL Cafe..............don't you know that by now?
The point is, to see what people think about it.
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Nationalism is Fascism.
With companies and banks begging to be bailed out, they deserve the credit for leading the US into it, not the citizens who are victims of corporate greed and incompetence. Secondly, the blame goes to Paulson for coming up with the bailout schemes that Bush's team put into motion. Until paid back, the government rightly owns them now. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Kikomom is right. The simplest definition of Nazism I've seen is Big Business and Big Military in bed with Big Government, held together with an expansionist foreign policy (killing foreigners is 'good' for business and keeps the military busy). |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| held together with an expansionist foreign policy (killing foreigners is 'good' for business and keeps the military busy). |
Sorry man. You were making an interesting point, up until that.
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Naziism was explictly racist and expansionist, whereas nationalism per se is not, hence the multitude of non-racist, non-expansionist nationalisms in the world.
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| Kikomom is right. The simplest definition of Nazism I've seen is Big Business and Big Military in bed with Big Government, held together with an expansionist foreign policy (killing foreigners is 'good' for business and keeps the military busy). |
Wouldn't "a single dictator" be better?
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Nationalism is Fascism.
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Cute. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't "a single dictator" be better?
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No, it wouldn't. 'Single dictators' don't get themselves into power all by their lonesome. They represent factional interests and their policies reflect those interests. |
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| No, it wouldn't |
Yes, tool, it would.
Naziism's sine qua non, its raison d'etre and its modus operandi were obedience to a single strong leader, a dictator.
Big government per se is irrelevant. It just sounds elegant alongside 'Big' military and 'Big' business that typically appeals to the tiny of mind.
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| 'Single dictators' don't get themselves into power all by their lonesome. They represent factional interests and their policies reflect those interests. |
This does not support your view that Naziism is 'big government' as opposed to 'single dictator'. |
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