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Demophobe
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 Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: International Anti-piracy agreement inked |
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http://ustr.gov/assets/Document_Library/Fact_Sheets/2009/asset_upload_file917_15546.pdf
Things are going to get weird. Korea and their new "3 strikes" implementation as well.
A good time to get smart.
Aside from the "It will take so long" and "Still looking for a needle in a haystack" rebuffs, what do you think the results will be?
Seems the whack-a-mole game is over.....? |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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What's to say? Eventually, stricter legislation is going to reach every country in an attempt to curb piracy.
What do you mean by "get smart"? Just enjoy while you can. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| hanguker wrote: |
What's to say? Eventually, stricter legislation is going to reach every country in an attempt to curb piracy.
What do you mean by "get smart"? Just enjoy while you can. |
Packet encryption. Someone will find a way to disguise the packet maybe? I need to read more about DPI before I could say with certainty.
From what I understand, the most elementary implementation of DPI reads the packet headers only; it (although the name implies "Deep" packet inspection) won't look inside the packet. Now, as the hardware probes deeper into the packet, things become more complicated and thus, more expensive.
This is where the fine print of the agreement will need going over. How deep does the agreement state the inspection must be? Probably past the header...this is easy to spoof. We shall see anyways....if each signing country is to implement their own level of inspection, then Korea may take the less invasive route. This equipment is prohibitively expensive; some ISPs may not be able to afford it...hopefully, but then, that will probably shut them down. We will be left with very few choices.
Maybe a renegade ISP? Advertising "No DPI!" 
Perhaps VPN would solve this. Instead of joining torrent sites, people will join VPNs for sharing.
Just an interesting discussion. Better than the Mac vs. PC borefest. |
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SHANE02
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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"It�s telling that most of the computers at government agencies rely on pirated software." said a Korean software developer.
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2009/03/27/we-must-match-nintendo/
Hey, if people can get a child car seat law taken out, why not this?
But yes, private encrypted networks........ |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Pirate Bay is starting to offer a paid VPN (VPN-like) service:
http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-ipredator-global-anonymity-service-090323/
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| As the online battle against file-sharers heats up with governments and ISPs forced into the arena, those opposed to being monitored are investigating counter-measures. Soon the Pirate Bay team will introduce IPREDATOR, a service that promises to make global Internet users more anonymous than with existing VPN services. |
Sign of the times, I guess. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. I signed up about a month ago already...can't wait until it kicks off.
However, Sweden recently announced (again) that IP information is enough to prosecute and that information was readily made available to copyright holders, which led to a 40-odd percent drop in users in a single day - the day it was re-stated.
Fun times.... |
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sobriquet
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ^Me too...since I requested it, they gave me your IP addy. |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Which services are you guys using? |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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[Derail]
How careful should we be with torrent in Korea? I'm nailing them! |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| ^Me too...since I requested it, they gave me your IP addy. |
Sock. 
1. Just joined TPBs up 'n coming VPN.
2. I have been warned once about a year ago. I still d/l a lot, but much more selectively. |
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Demophobe
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mil
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Location: Gimhae, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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didn't the riaa back in the states stop suing people for downloading music illegally? there was some sort of tort reform where the most they can do is void your service provider contract...
i am typing this while dl-ing the entire second season of mad men at my hagwan  |
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| mil wrote: |
didn't the riaa back in the states stop suing people for downloading music illegally? there was some sort of tort reform where the most they can do is void your service provider contract...
i am typing this while dl-ing the entire second season of mad men at my hagwan |
Madmen is a boring over-rated tv series that takes itself WAY TO SERIOUSLY. |
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mil
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Location: Gimhae, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| DCJames wrote: |
| mil wrote: |
didn't the riaa back in the states stop suing people for downloading music illegally? there was some sort of tort reform where the most they can do is void your service provider contract...
i am typing this while dl-ing the entire second season of mad men at my hagwan |
Madmen is a boring over-rated tv series that takes itself WAY TO SERIOUSLY. |
haha ya im watching it cause i've run out of stuff to watch. it's kinda like watching csi on OCN...i hate the show, but that's the only english channel i get here |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| DCJames wrote: |
| mil wrote: |
didn't the riaa back in the states stop suing people for downloading music illegally? there was some sort of tort reform where the most they can do is void your service provider contract...
i am typing this while dl-ing the entire second season of mad men at my hagwan |
Madmen is a boring over-rated tv series that takes itself WAY TO SERIOUSLY. |
Great contribution to the thread. You seem to suffer some of the same handicaps as the program.
The RIAA is still suing away, just not quite so publicly. I guess taking kids to court wasn't doing them any favors with the unwashed masses. |
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