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Gdsgirl



Joined: 05 May 2009
Location: California

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Minorities in Korea Reply with quote

Okay! I've heard a lot of different issues on the matter. For those with experience was it hard to get placed? I know many recruiters ask for a photo, I wonder if this is to weed out certain people. Also, which companies work well with this?




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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of the bigger chains are more open minded. There were a lot of minority teachers when I worked at YES Youngdo (not that I necessarily endorse them).
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longlocks



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Minorities in Korea Reply with quote

I heard the same thing and that actually deterred me from applying a few years ago. I applied with EPIK this year through a recruiter, and I now have a contract for Busan. I write about my experiences in applying in my blog. See the blog by clicking the www button. There is also a facebook group for minorities in Korea. The group is called Brothas and Sistas in South Korea.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll get harassed by desperate recruiters either way....unless your Indian or Kyopo....

You'll get less job responses then a hot white blonde girl however...I say hit the Public schools....but I know minorities like myself working at all types of hagwons in Seoul...
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In K-land, if you're not 'Han' you're a minority.

The Ks hate (almost) everone equally - there's special place in their hearts reserved for the Japanese.

The colour of one's skin has no bearing... except in their minds 'the darker, the dirtier'. Rolling Eyes
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:

The colour of one's skin has no bearing... except in their minds 'the darker, the dirtier'. Rolling Eyes


I find this this to be true for a lot of Asian countries. During my time abroad in Japan, China, and Taiwan, there were many "whitening products"--and they weren't for your teeth.

It was actually pretty sad in Hong Kong where darker skinned minorities, primarily Filipinos, line many streets wanting jobs. My HK friend told me it was because darker skinned minorities are strongly discriminated against in HK. I was a bit skeptical, but I'm sure that's part of it.

Then again, I think every country in the world treats lighter skinned individuals better (hell, look at Spanish television and take a stroll around LA); it's just super pronounced in Asia.

With regards to Korea, I'd imagine that it could be worse than Japan or China. Can't comment on racism, though.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
Then again, I think every country in the world treats lighter skinned individuals better...

Really? Have you ever thought about the current government of Zimbabwe? Shocked
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i_teach_esl



Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Location: baebang, asan/cheonan

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fb group for black folks in korea

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=25747883752&ref=ts
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Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious- what is the concesus of "Black English Vernacular" for the ESL teachers of African descent? I imagine many South African teachers are as perplexed by the "language" as the indigeneous White Devils of the USA are... Twisted Evil
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^

That's too nonsensical to be offensive...if that's even what you were going for.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine a black guy standing in front of 72 K kids and utterering these words "I's gonna learn ya ta speak English good."

The Ks had no idea...
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would they understand it if a white teacher spoke those words?
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chagwon office of education appears to have equal opportunity hiring as there are lots of minorities working in public schools in Gyeongsang namdo province. I guess you could try there for cities like Chagwon, Gimhae, Jinju, Masan.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alphakennyone wrote:
Would they understand it if a white teacher spoke those words?

Of course not... but no 'white' English teacher would speak those words.

His fellow, white Texan spoke these words - "I hate Mexicans and niggers."

The best way to teach what discrimination is all about is to divide the class in two and give only one half 'privileges' based on something they have no control over. When they get 'comfortable' and start treating the other half as less than human, take the privileges away - spin everything 180 degrees. Tears will flow and I guarantee (unless they're autistic) they'll understand.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A white person might indeed say something similar. I'd say "ebonics" (in its true form) is fairly loosely tied to race and more closely tied to the rural poor and a lack of education, despite what some white south africans (i still have no idea what that was that all about?) might think.

Two examples I've overheard in Seoul spoken by white servicemen (there ya go, rural poor):

"I ain't been over there." (using ain't in place of don't/haven't/etc instead of just "am not" is considered ebonics)

"I'm fixin ta set down" (this isn't really ebonics, but it's still uneducated-speak).

Sorry, I find poking at ebonics to be racist. In Japan one of my students said the newscaster remarked how Obama "spoke like a white man." I corrected him and said he spoke like an educated person. As far as I'm concerned, the only guy who sounds strangely "white" is Tony Gwynn.

Hell, and I'm not even a minority!
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