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Pregnant South Korean Woman forced to leave New Zealand.
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milkweedma



Joined: 15 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Pregnant South Korean Woman forced to leave New Zealand. Reply with quote

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/2482954/Pregnant-Korean-woman-forced-to-leave-NZ
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A student visa is not a visa of convenience.
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gprov



Joined: 05 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans going to the US island of Guam to give birth so that their kid will have US citizenship has created an entire industry. See:

Korean Tours to Guam for U.S. Citizenship Babies Uncovered!
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=137734&highlight=

Cool
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love how Koreans expect to have 'rights' wherever they go yet don't feel the need to give foreigners any rights in their own country.

'How could they do this to me and my baby?' Laughing
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This woman had no intention of being a proper student.
She was looking for any way to stay so that her impending birth could be an "anchor baby".

I completely agree with not granting her a visa!

This birthing tour crap needs the smack down!
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okokok wrote:
I love how Koreans expect to have 'rights' wherever they go yet don't feel the need to give foreigners any rights in their own country.

I understand what you're saying, but for all we know she advocates equal rights for foreign workers in Korea- the ones denying us things like bank cards and access to booking clubs are quite possibly different people.
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jahson4



Joined: 17 Feb 2009
Location: Jamsil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you didn't read all of the article.

"A law change in 2006 means children born in New Zealand will not obtain citizenship unless at least one of the parents is a New Zealand citizen."

She was willing to pay for the maternity care of her child that would not be granted citizenship. What's the problem?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny. Could go either way as a passport baby but still if she had the sejongs and kicked her out. I`m surprised. Usually capitalism trumps social welfare system.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems a bit strange since the kid would have no claim to citizenship and they were prepared to pay. Can't be a big shortage of doctors. Facilities maybe...
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, a woman who is pregnant and all of a sudden wants a student visa doesn't really look good on paper. You don't usually have pregnant women all of a sudden applying to go to school. However, since her child can't get citizenship it doesn't make sense to give birth in New Zealand.
Why not do it in South Korea? Perhaps, the woman didn't know that you can't get citizenship in New Zealand if none of your parents are from the country.

Do you think the US should copy New Zealand? Why or why not?

That sounds like an essay question.
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sojukettle



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Not there, HERE!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10577280

another one - not just students......

Shortage of facilities is said to be the reasoning behind the rulings.
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eperdue4ad



Joined: 22 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It reads like she got pregnant in Korea with her Kiwi boyfriend, and doesn't want to go home-- not for the citizenship, but because she can't face her family maybe.

She'll just have to go home, marry him and come back on the spousal. You can't overstay your tourist visa. "How can they do this to me and my baby" doesn't hold up. Unless she's at the very end of pregnancy or has complications preventing travel, it's not a death sentence, just a visa refusal. Happens all the time.
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eperdue4ad



Joined: 22 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojukettle wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10577280

another one - not just students......

Shortage of facilities is said to be the reasoning behind the rulings.


Now this story is much more interesting since doctors had said this woman was high-risk for premature labor and had placed her on bed rest.
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jahson4



Joined: 17 Feb 2009
Location: Jamsil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immigration NZ could simply use better judgment and allow both ladies to stay. It's really hard to believe the entire country lacks medical facilities for two cases.
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