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tonyvu

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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: ideas on teaching teachers |
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They want me to teach them expressions but all i have is a book on common western expressions but im stuck on where to go from there. Anybody have ideas on how i should go about it? Is there a textbook i can use to help me in this department? |
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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Goin' up the country
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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I tried that and they are all timid and shy. Just use a basic textbook and add common expressions as you go. I can't remember what I used because I have a small brain, but you should be able to improvise. More than likely, they will give up in a few weeks and cancel the class. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Find a way to scare them into not coming again. |
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Chamchiman

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: Digging the Grave
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yeremy
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching Teachers |
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I have to teach the intermediate teachers class again in December as an EPIK teacher in my city. If you are going to teach an advanced teachers class, I suggest free talking on a couple of themes, which you could interrelate with a movie or youtube clip. If it's a (beginning to) intermediate class, there will probably be a range of levels from false beginners-novices to low intermediates. It's a big range.
From my experience, I have found that even the intermediate classes really are looking more for practice than for instruction. I do, however, mix in a lot of corrective work on the spot rather than planning it because, I have found that they are really looking more for practice than being instructed.
Andrew Finch has a great TBL (free) site at www.finchpark.com, which I have used in the past for intermediate teacher's classes. I modified the materials I found there to better suit the students I had and it worked fine. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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yeremy is bang on about keeping it topical and about what their interests are... do a survey. Go here for some great surveys that they can use with their students also. In the book - Teaching Reflections. http://setiteachers.ning.com/forum/topics/books-to-help-middle-school
Also, get some other Finch books there.
I really think that you should teach using KOREA as a topic. They have a lot of contextual background knowledge which will help them with speaking. Visit Korea by Finch is super and if you organize lessons like this - you'll also learn about Korea too... get them teaching you!
Teaching adults is about listening to their own wants/needs. Balancing structure with a lot of open conversation....
cheers,
DD
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DrugstoreCowgirl
Joined: 08 May 2009 Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Tony Vu I just posted this yesterday
Good luck with your classes, we're in the same boat! |
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seoulsteve

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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Goin' up the country
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching Teachers |
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yeremy wrote: |
I have to teach the intermediate teachers class again in December as an EPIK teacher in my city. If you are going to teach an advanced teachers class, I suggest free talking on a couple of themes, which you could interrelate with a movie or youtube clip. If it's a (beginning to) intermediate class, there will probably be a range of levels from false beginners-novices to low intermediates. It's a big range.
From my experience, I have found that even the intermediate classes really are looking more for practice than for instruction. I do, however, mix in a lot of corrective work on the spot rather than planning it because, I have found that they are really looking more for practice than being instructed.
Andrew Finch has a great TBL (free) site at www.finchpark.com, which I have used in the past for intermediate teacher's classes. I modified the materials I found there to better suit the students I had and it worked fine. |
That link won't work because he put a comma after .com |
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typo
Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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D.D. wrote: |
Find a way to scare them into not coming again. |
For serious. I got lucky in that the first time only one teacher showed up. He stayed half-chatting with me and then left. |
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yeremy
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: Thanks Roadwork |
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I'll try to remember to check that in the future. Not the first time. www.finchpark.com. |
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entity
Joined: 27 Aug 2009
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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OP: By expressions, do you mean something like idiomatic phrases?
I used "Speaking of Values 2". It gives mostly conversation tasks in social values that my teacher-students seemed to have enjoyed. It gives loads of vocabulary.
Good luck. |
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iggyb
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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You're already in the class, so ordering this book for it won't work probably.
http://www.esolers.org/lessons/Resources/essentialidioms.html
It is a good book for very common "expressions" that are hard for ESLers to learn because they are easily confusing ---- like all the two-word terms at least American English has using up or down - set up, put up, pull up, shut up, go up, think up, talk up....and so on...
Getting them to talk about Korea is a good idea and always tie each discussion to your knowledge of where you are from --- a cross-cultural exchange.
Teaching adults and doing this is a great way to learn about Korean society. I particularly liked my younger ajuma classes - housewives between the ages of 35-45 generally. With no men in the class, these were the most free-ranging, open, and honest conversation classes I taught in Korea. They were very refreshing. I liked teaching adults in general, but regular classes tended to worry too much about the "impression" I'd get about Korea and it took a recurrent effort with new students coming in all the time to get them to talk more and more freely about subjects in Korean society. |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Location: left Korea
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