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Should I allow my daughter to be photographed?
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FredDaSked



Joined: 17 Jun 2009
Location: Within You, Without You

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Should I allow my daughter to be photographed? Reply with quote

I don't know what to think, but I could use the advice. It's a potential good thing.

My wife, daughter (3 years old) and I are US citizens, and I'm teaching in Jukjeon-dong, Bundang. We were sitting by the fountain near the subway in Jeonga-dong the other night when a man approached us and asked to have our daughter photographed for his dance studio. We told him we couldn't make a decision right there, and to leave his card.

Here's what he was:

1. Older (maybe 50-ish)
2. Well-dressed
3. Very polite, but
4. Very keen on getting our daughter photographed in a ballet costume
4. English-proficient
5. Carrying a sealed box containing a child's ballet costume, which he showed us.

Here's what he told us:
1. He represented the Eurotard Company, Alpharetta, Georgia
2. He owns a dance studio
3. It's on the ninth floor of the Paragon building, which was visible from
where we sat
4. We could visit any time and see everything before making a decision.
5. We could be present at all times
6.We were welcome to name a per-photo fee
7. He would need about 20 photos
8. The photos would all be studio displays, not for outside advertising purposes.
9. Of course, that we would need to sign a release.

You see? It all sounds positive. He was up front and forthright with answers to our questions. When I said I didn't know anything about fees, he quoted something a lot higher than I would have thought of saying, but ultimately, that's not the most important thing.

Has anyone had experience with this sort of thing? I know that that's a wealthy area, so the whole thing could be right on, but I wanna know who knows what about this, because I know nothing. But if dance school owners are anything like hagwon directors, well. . .

On the other hand, it seems that, income-wise, a good day in the dance studio getting photographed beats a month in the classroom teaching English. . .beats it x2, in fact. That's why I have to be a detail hunter about this.
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.eurotard.com
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does your daughter have an entertainment/model visa? if not, accepting money would likely somehow violate your E2 (if that is what you're on). That being said, chances of being caught are low.
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Bread



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proustme wrote:
http://www.eurotard.com


Oh god, they're going to cut off her legs!

But really, if you can see the studio and be present the whole time then I don't see what the problem is. They probably just want a little waygookin girl to advertise with, and there aren't a lot of those around so approaching them on the street is the easiest way.
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Reise-ohne-Ende



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live near Alpharetta!! Smile

I would go for it. Don't see what it could hurt.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't do it. How do you know what your daughter's images will be used for. Heck, they could be circulated in paedophile circles.
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Reise-ohne-Ende



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Heck, they could be circulated in paedophile circles.


........lol.
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richardlang



Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much money are we talking? This reminds me of the scene in Bruno where Sacha Baron Cohen interviews parents who want to get modeling/casting jobs for their children.

Bruno: Is your baby comfortable with bees, wasps, and hornets?
Parent: George is comfortable with everything. So he's fine.

Bruno: Is your baby comfortable with dead or dying animals?
Parent: (Pause) Yes

Bruno: Is she okay with extremely rapid acceleration?
Parent: Haha, yes.

Bruno: Does she always have to be in a car seat or can she just freestyle?
Parent: Oh yeah, you can free style, put her in a car seat, or whatever.
Bruno: It looks better without a car seat.
Parent: Of course
Bruno: So what. You're traveling fast. You're not going to kill it.

Bruno: Is your baby okay with lit phosphorous?
Parent: Yes
Bruno: Does he like it?
Parent: Loves it.

Youtube
Bruno Asks Parents What Their Babies Will Be Comfortable With For A Photo Shoot

And I realized I've just transcribed the entire video.
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say do it.

Although, I would wager that these photographs WOULD be used for advertising, somewhere down the line. Especially if they get a good response from the people who come into his shop.

In any case, so what? You're beautiful child has her face and tu-tu'ed body plastered around the city. I would feel proud.

Just make sure you see EVERY shot he takes and have final say in what he saves and what he deletes. Cool.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reise-ohne-Ende wrote:
Quote:
Heck, they could be circulated in paedophile circles.


........lol.


It is pretty funny, especially since the OP qualified his post so much with how much control he'd have over the photo shoot.

It's awesome that children aren't allowed to walk to school or play outside anymore in the West because of paedo fear. It's funny because a lot of parents actually believe that their kids are more at risk than those of the 70s or 50s or some other golden age. They're not. TV and newspapers have just put the fear of god into parents though.
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Reise-ohne-Ende



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. I wasn't even sure how to respond to that.

It's like, "Don't let your children go outside!! The pedophiles will see them and have dirty thoughts from which your children will never recover!!!"
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
Reise-ohne-Ende wrote:
Quote:
Heck, they could be circulated in paedophile circles.


........lol.


It is pretty funny, especially since the OP qualified his post so much with how much control he'd have over the photo shoot.

It's awesome that children aren't allowed to walk to school or play outside anymore in the West because of paedo fear. It's funny because a lot of parents actually believe that their kids are more at risk than those of the 70s or 50s or some other golden age. They're not. TV and newspapers have just put the fear of god into parents though.


Be extremely careful with your kids. Child slavery and slavery in general is second only to the drug trade in the 21st century. The trade is bigger now than it has ever been in history(and that includes the US). If children go missing you have 24 hours to locate them before they are smuggled out of the country to be used and exploited.
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grunden



Joined: 18 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, this is a child, YOUR CHILD, are you so up for money that you have to do this?? Is it the money??
1. If you do not need the money, forget about it.
2. You always got to realize that any deal is not the same here. There is always an X factor... who knows what this man might do with the photos. Who knows how he will take them. Who knows if you get into legal stuff for accepting money., who knows, it could be a sham. Just walk away, go to the park with your kid, and enjoy your freedom.
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winterwawa



Joined: 06 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to ask people on this forum if it's right or not, then you already know the answer. Don't do it.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fusionbarnone wrote:


Be extremely careful with your kids. Child slavery and slavery in general is second only to the drug trade in the 21st century. The trade is bigger now than it has ever been in history(and that includes the US). If children go missing you have 24 hours to locate them before they are smuggled out of the country to be used and exploited.


Good grief. Rolling Eyes

Have you asked the kid? If she wants to do, go for it. If she doesn't, then forget all about it. Pretty simple really.
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