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South Korean fined in first racial insult case
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: South Korean fined in first racial insult case Reply with quote

My friend back in the States just linked me to this. I thought it was really interesting. What do you all think?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8382087.stm

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A South Korean man has been fined one million won ($865; �520) for making discriminatory remarks against an Indian professor.

The conviction is the country's first involving racist remarks towards a foreigner, Incheon District Court officials told local media.

The man yelled racist comments and said "Arab! Arab!" at the Indian man while on a bus in July, the judge said.

The professor felt publically insulted by the comments, he added.

The 31-year-old South Korean had objected to Bonogit Hussain talking loudly on a bus.

Mr Hussain had been in South Korea since 2007 and had studied for a master's degree from Seoul's SungKongHoe University, later working as a research professor there.

Park could have faced up to one year in prison and 2 million won in fines for public insult, Associated Press reported.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one million won fine isn't excessive and hopefully sends a signal, though is the korean media covering it?

interesting that we hear of this first through the BBC.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:19 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case Reply with quote

You wrote:
My friend back in the States just linked me to this. I thought it was really interesting. What do you all think?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8382087.stm

Quote:
A South Korean man has been fined one million won ($865; �520) for making discriminatory remarks against an Indian professor.

The conviction is the country's first involving racist remarks towards a foreigner, Incheon District Court officials told local media.

The man yelled racist comments and said "Arab! Arab!" at the Indian man while on a bus in July, the judge said.

The professor felt publically insulted by the comments, he added.

The 31-year-old South Korean had objected to Bonogit Hussain talking loudly on a bus.

Mr Hussain had been in South Korea since 2007 and had studied for a master's degree from Seoul's SungKongHoe University, later working as a research professor there.

Park could have faced up to one year in prison and 2 million won in fines for public insult, Associated Press reported.


Actually, this topic has already been much discussed in several threads. I guess the only thing new in the article is that the court case has been concluded. Frankly, I am happy for Dr. Hussain. Its not every day that the Korean justice system rules in favor of a foreigner.

And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case Reply with quote

Konglishman wrote:

And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.


Assault and saying something are two totally different things.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
one million won fine isn't excessive and hopefully sends a signal, though is the korean media covering it?

interesting that we hear of this first through the BBC.


It's on the Korea Times.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Konglishman wrote:

And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.


Assault and saying something are two totally different things.


If he were fined for assault, I would have been happy, even though I think a much stiffer fine should be levied against him. But being fined for shouting "Arab!"? It's a little disconcerting IMO.
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Konglishman wrote:

And before anyone starts complaining about free speech and so forth, let us not forget that Mr. Park also assaulted a Korean lady who was traveling with Dr. Hussain.


Assault and saying something are two totally different things.


Yes, I am aware of that, but I guess that I am more happy with the fact that something was done even if done for debatable reasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: South Korean fined in first racial insult case Reply with quote

bry0000000 wrote:

If he were fined for assault, I would have been happy, even though I think a much stiffer fine should be levied against him. But being fined for shouting "Arab!"? It's a little disconcerting IMO.


I'm guessing that the Korean lady did not push the assault charge...and that the other very offensive insults that were hurled are not being reported by the K-media.
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assault is not battery. Insulting somebody can be construed as assault, at least in the US.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, wow. I didn't know there was also an assault. Does anyone have the news link to that part of the story?
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wrote:
Oh, wow. I didn't know there was also an assault. Does anyone have the news link to that part of the story?


A poster who knows Dr. Hussain, first alerted us to this information. His user id is edmundo. Also, I remember reading a small news snippet somewhere which included the assault in the report, but I cannot seem to find that news report at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are court imposed fines in Korea similar to parking and speeding fines? Meaning if the person doesn't pay, then they just don't pay, end of story.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
one million won fine isn't excessive and hopefully sends a signal, though is the korean media covering it?

interesting that we hear of this first through the BBC.


Saw it on MBC News today.
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Murakano



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I wasn`t expecting this outcome as I thought the Korean guy would get away with it as they usually do......so in a way it`s a half decent start to win with a very slight bit of shaming for Korea in the international world .
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Cerberus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a very unsatisfying ending, but considering the circumstances probably the best one that could've been hoped for.

I'm waiting for the day where I read a headline titled:

Korean man insults and screams at a foreigner and his Korean girlfriend and gets his ass kicked.

if the same (or another) Mr. Kim wants to give it a shot with yours truly, I'll be happy to oblige.
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