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Sezzy
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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 Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: Options when Quitting after 2 weeks & before Alien Card |
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Hi Everyone,
I've been doing lots of research to figure out my options but one thing has stumped me. I am here on an E2 visa but I just quit my job after 2 weeks (it was horrendous). I'm now figuring out if I can get another job without a release letter (there's no way I'm getting one). I'm prepared to leave the country and reapply but I've read that without a release letter, I won't be able to get another job (or visa) until the end of my original contract. But what happens when I never received my alien card in the first place? Does that mean I'm technically still a tourist because the final part of the visa was never processed?
I'm sure I'm not the only person who has been in this situation and I'd appreciate your advice. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Options when Quitting after 2 weeks & before Alien C |
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| Sezzy wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
I've been doing lots of research to figure out my options but one thing has stumped me. I am here on an E2 visa but I just quit my job after 2 weeks (it was horrendous). I'm now figuring out if I can get another job without a release letter (there's no way I'm getting one). I'm prepared to leave the country and reapply but I've read that without a release letter, I won't be able to get another job (or visa) until the end of my original contract. But what happens when I never received my alien card in the first place? Does that mean I'm technically still a tourist because the final part of the visa was never processed?
I'm sure I'm not the only person who has been in this situation and I'd appreciate your advice. |
In your case, the existence (or not) of the ARC is not relevant.
If you are American then you have to leave the country AND ensure at passport control that your multi-entry visa is canceled.
If you are from any other country then the simple act of leaving will cancel your visa/
At that point:
re-enter Korea
find a new job.
begin the visa process all over again from the start (complete with all new documents).
IF your new visa application (IN Korea) is rejected, go to Japan.
Look for a job who would be willing to sponsor you. (They) apply for a COE and when it arrives, make a visa run to the Japanese Embassy in Korea and get your Japanese work visa. You will need your Degree and TESOL (if you have one). No medical, no apostilles, no crap like Korea.
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sesyeux
Joined: 20 Jul 2009
Location: king 'arrys
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jeez. what happened? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have the visa or just the certificate number? In either case you will need the release letter to be able to more easily jump to another job.
I had a situation in which I had the certificate # but had not run to Japan. I had to make a strong and a bit costly case (based on transportation and a place to stay, not fines or anything) to immigration to cancel the certificate because of the job being a sham. Then I had to set up a new job w/ all new apostille, etc. NOT FUN AND NOT RECOMMENDED (if you can go work somewhere else in this type of case) |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| sesyeux wrote: |
| jeez. what happened? |
Yeah Ive had some bad weeks but what happened to make you want to quit so soon? |
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Sezzy
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks everyone for your help. I'm here on an Australian passport and my E2 visa was issued in February but as I mentioned before, I never got my alien card because I left work before that happened. I left because the school director was threatening and verbally abusing me. She was holding my original degrees so that I wouldn't leave and she wanted my passport to get my ARC but said she needed to keep it for 2 weeks. She was setting up other teachers' bank accounts (luckily I left before this) but using the school's address so she could see the statements. She was also taking money out of their wages to pay for internet, cable, cell phone but no one ever saw the bills so they have no idea if she was taking out more than necessary. I just want to know if I can leave the country and apply for a new visa before the end of my original contract since I doubt I'll be getting a release letter. If the post above is true about non USA countries having their visas cancelled automatically when leaving, then that should apply to me? I have to stay in Korea because I'm here to be with my fiance. |
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aaron.southkorea
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I rescind my nay-saying. Go get 'em, Champ!
(And I, too, am curious to see how this turns out.)
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Sezzy
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. A lot of your reasons for leaving are par for the course, dude. You have to give your passport and original documentation for your school to issue your ARC (which does take roughly 2 weeks).
It's not unusual for your school use their address for your bills (although they shouldn't mind if you change it). You could also have just set up your own bank account once you received your ARC and insisted that the school use that one.
As far as the director taking money out for internet, etc, were you in school provided housing? While not the best situation, it certainly isn't quit-worthy, especially now with the hassle. I have an absolute shite job now but I'm not about to leave it to suffer though an immigration nightmare!
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Thanks for the reply but I've actually sought legal advice and it's illegal for her to do it. Some people might accept it because it's easier which is fine but my biggest problem was that she gave us no choice. It was forced on us. She was also reading our phone records and got us into trouble if we were talking to each other too much after hours. You may have a higher tolerance than me but I won't stand for such things, same with being screamed and lunged at continuously when I stand up for my rights. No job is worth that. |
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jmuns
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
Location: earth
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Sezzy wrote: |
| aaron.southkorea wrote: |
Wow. A lot of your reasons for leaving are par for the course, dude. You have to give your passport and original documentation for your school to issue your ARC (which does take roughly 2 weeks).
It's not unusual for your school use their address for your bills (although they shouldn't mind if you change it). You could also have just set up your own bank account once you received your ARC and insisted that the school use that one.
As far as the director taking money out for internet, etc, were you in school provided housing? While not the best situation, it certainly isn't quit-worthy, especially now with the hassle. I have an absolute shite job now but I'm not about to leave it to suffer though an immigration nightmare!
Good luck! |
Thanks for the reply but I've actually sought legal advice and it's illegal for her to do it. Some people might accept it because it's easier which is fine but my biggest problem was that she gave us no choice. It was forced on us. She was also reading our phone records and got us into trouble if we were talking to each other too much after hours. You may have a higher tolerance than me but I won't stand for such things, same with being screamed and lunged at continuously when I stand up for my rights. No job is worth that. |
you are just making this stuff up now. this troll post was somewhat believable before, but come on now |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Options when Quitting after 2 weeks & before Alien C |
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| Sezzy wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
I've been doing lots of research to figure out my options but one thing has stumped me. I am here on an E2 visa but I just quit my job after 2 weeks (it was horrendous). I'm now figuring out if I can get another job without a release letter (there's no way I'm getting one). I'm prepared to leave the country and reapply but I've read that without a release letter, I won't be able to get another job (or visa) until the end of my original contract. But what happens when I never received my alien card in the first place? Does that mean I'm technically still a tourist because the final part of the visa was never processed?
I'm sure I'm not the only person who has been in this situation and I'd appreciate your advice. |
LEAVE THE COUNTRY TODAY, OR AT LEAST GO TO IMMIGRATION TO SEE IF YOUR E2 VISA HAS BEEN CANCELLED AND WHEN IT WILL BE CANCELLED. You have to leave the country if you run from your job. Immigration will be told by your school that you quit your job and they will cancel your E2 visa. And your right about the release order, without a release order you will have to wait another year before your eligible for another E2 visa. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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Japan?
I would recommend Thailand. It's much more fun this time of year. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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The other option is to just go to immigration and TELL them that you quit your job.
They will cancel your visa and give you a 30 day exit order (means you have to leave within 30 days - no extensions). You CAN leave and return without consequence.
Find a new job (if you really want one) and start the visa process over again.
Jump to Japan, get a new visa and try again.
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Sezzy
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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The other option is to just go to immigration and TELL them that you quit your job.
They will cancel your visa and give you a 30 day exit order (means you have to leave within 30 days - no extensions). You CAN leave and return without consequence.
Find a new job (if you really want one) and start the visa process over again.
Jump to Japan, get a new visa and try again.
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Thanks! That's exactly what my recruitment agent told me to do. Tried calling this morning, ended up being passed around until someone understood what I needed. Called the number they gave me and the guy sort of understood what I need but kept saying "come to my office", when I asked him where it is, he hung up. So my next attempt is to visit the closest immigration office to where I live and try in person. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
The other option is to just go to immigration and TELL them that you quit your job.
They will cancel your visa and give you a 30 day exit order (means you have to leave within 30 days - no extensions). You CAN leave and return without consequence.
Find a new job (if you really want one) and start the visa process over again.
Jump to Japan, get a new visa and try again.
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Thanks! That's exactly what my recruitment agent told me to do. Tried calling this morning, ended up being passed around until someone understood what I needed. Called the number they gave me and the guy sort of understood what I need but kept saying "come to my office", when I asked him where it is, he hung up. So my next attempt is to visit the closest immigration office to where I live and try in person. |
Since you quit before your ARC you can go to any immigration office but the one at mokdong (omokyo station) is probably your best bet (even though the lines are longer). |
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Sezzy
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Since you quit before your ARC you can go to any immigration office but the one at mokdong (omokyo station) is probably your best bet (even though the lines are longer).[/quote]
Fab, thanks again! You've been a big help! |
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