Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Do public schools ever keep anything on file?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Do public schools ever keep anything on file? Reply with quote

I feel like I've been asked to bring in my passport and ARC at least three times.

Today on coolmessenger I get a message from someone "in charge of education statistics" asking me when my birthday was, how long I've been teaching at this school (uh, 6 months!!!), how many hours I teach per week, and even my salary.

They have this information!!! Ask the person with the copy of my contract!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Do public schools ever keep anything on file? Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:


They have this information!!! Ask the person with the copy of my contract!!!


Just expect this to happen at least 2 or 3 times a year.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My previous co-teacher had a nice file made up of all that info. My new co-teacher came to me asking some trivial piece of info, I directed her to the file. The response.....

"What file?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two years ago, my coteacher started cursing as she hung up the phone. I asked her what was wrong and her response was, "Those morons keep NOTHING!" She was referring to the admin types at the city's office of education, of course. Like Senior's previous coteacher, this one had a file of every document that concerned me. My coteacher this year is learning fast that she needs to do the same thing and to also ask pertinent questions before doing the Korean/Pavlovian reaction. That's because I refuse to give any information without answers to "Who wants it? Why do they want it? What will they do with that information?"

The funniest thing about all this is that a few years ago, the NEIS program was supposed to be altered to make all this stuff simple for everyone involved: pay personnel, administration personnel, supervisers, and even us foreign teachers, and it was supposed to restrict the information to only people whose duties actually required such knowledge. I've never been able to get the program to work for me nor have any of the foreign teachers I personally know in my city.

I was hoping this year would be different and the program would work. Alas, it doesn't seem like it will.

Quote:
Just expect this to happen at least 2 or 3 times a year.


Monthly. Evidently, there is a monthly report to include the following:
  • GET's hours taught per week for that month.
  • GET's salary.
  • Overtime hours worked.
  • Number of students in "after-school" or "camp" classes taught by the GET.
  • Certificates (such as TEFL) earned since last report, if applicable.


Last edited by CentralCali on Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:48 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean come on, asking for my DOB and salary information on cool messenger? That's just bad HR.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
I mean come on, asking for my DOB and salary information on cool messenger? That's just bad HR.


Want to have some fun with the coteacher? Point to the notice on the cool messenger itself about privacy act (yes, Korea actually has such) information!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mogbert



Joined: 10 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to Korea.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
snowysunshine



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Two years ago, my coteacher started cursing as she hung up the phone. I asked her what was wrong and her response was, "Those morons keep NOTHING!" She was referring to the admin types at the city's office of education, of course. Like Senior's previous coteacher, this one had a file of every document that concerned me. My coteacher this year is learning fast that she needs to do the same thing and to also ask pertinent questions before doing the Korean/Pavlovian reaction. That's because I refuse to give any information without answers to "Who wants it? Why do they want it? What will they do with that information?"

The funniest thing about all this is that a few years ago, the NEIS program was supposed to be altered to make all this stuff simple for everyone involved: pay personnel, administration personnel, supervisers, and even us foreign teachers, and it was supposed to restrict the information to only people whose duties actually required such knowledge. I've never been able to get the program to work for me nor have any of the foreign teachers I personally know in my city.

I was hoping this year would be different and the program would work. Alas, it doesn't seem like it will.

Quote:
Just expect this to happen at least 2 or 3 times a year.


Monthly. Evidently, there is a monthly report to include the following:
  • GET's hours taught per week for that month.
  • GET's salary.
  • Overtime hours worked.
  • Number of students in "after-school" or "camp" classes taught by the GET.
  • Certificates (such as TEFL) earned since last report, if applicable.


My school has been trying to get me hooked up with the NEIS program for a month now. It's not working, and no one knows why. Our computer guy, who's really kind of useless, can't seem to figure it out. Yesterday he suggested that I'd signed up for the program previously, but it's my first gig in a PS, so that's not the case. I had actually no idea what it's for anyways, so I wasn't stressing too much about it. I asked them what it does, and someone mentioned that teachers can communicate with the parents through the program, and I suggested that maybe they don't want me to be doing that... Rolling Eyes I sometimes tend to react to things first, and then think about it later... Smile This might not be so popular with the parents. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International