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Narconis



Joined: 29 Jul 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: I'm lost and jobless and have no idea what do to.... Reply with quote

I've tried searching, and I didn't come up with anything that answered all of my questions, so I am sorry if this info is online...

Here is my situation. I was fired by my hagwon owner last night because he says the school hasn't been making any money. I've only been here 3 months so I do not have enough money to buy a plane ticket back to the states and he is refusing to purchase a flight for me. I have to be out of my apartment by monday. I have never had a complaint, never been late, never breached my contract once. I am trying to find another job quickly, but on such short notice over a weekend it hardly seems possible to find another job that will be similar to the one I lost. So basically I am going to be homeless, jobless, and in a foreign country...and I am pretty damn scared.

Do I have any legal rights to prevent myself from getting fired or at least getting a ticket back to the states?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm lost and jobless and have no idea what do to.... Reply with quote

Narconis wrote:
I've tried searching, and I didn't come up with anything that answered all of my questions, so I am sorry if this info is online...

Here is my situation. I was fired by my hagwon owner last night because he says the school hasn't been making any money. I've only been here 3 months so I do not have enough money to buy a plane ticket back to the states and he is refusing to purchase a flight for me. I have to be out of my apartment by monday. I have never had a complaint, never been late, never breached my contract once. I am trying to find another job quickly, but on such short notice over a weekend it hardly seems possible to find another job that will be similar to the one I lost. So basically I am going to be homeless, jobless, and in a foreign country...and I am pretty damn scared.

Do I have any legal rights to prevent myself from getting fired or at least getting a ticket back to the states?



Under labor law you are considered a probationary employee until you have completed six months. So there isn't much you can do in regards to getting your job back. However were I you I would post my resume on this job site in the resume section (might take a few reposts) and you should get something.

Another option would be to ask your family to wire money to your account over here so you can get a plane ticket back.

I would also check with the local embassy as well.

I think most people on here (the decent ones at least) are pulling for you man. Let us know if things work out. And try to get a Letter of Release from your boss. That will facilitate further employment.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try and get some accomodation at a cheap love hotel. You should be able to find something cheap out of a main area for 25,000ish a night. I don't know about legal issues but it could help you buy some more time.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anybody whose place you can crash at?
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randall020105



Joined: 08 Apr 2008
Location: the land of morning confusion...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: re: contact me bro... Reply with quote

hi there.
contact me at

[email protected]

i may be able to help you.... quick... get on it....

i'll check my inbox in the next hour and get back to you.

R.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well try to get some kind of settlement out of him. You know that a return ticket on the Beetle is about, what, 300 with tax? Tell him you're going to need to make a visa run in order to find a job, and he would be an honorable person if he gave you that 300, plus a train ticket, and a recommendation letter, and a release letter, etc. It's not a ticket home, but it's better than nothing.
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stuck2



Joined: 22 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in a similar position.

First get a letter of release, even though you are under the usual 9 month mark for visa transfers, immigration usually waive this if you are transferring to a public school.

Look for afterschool jobs or any public school jobs, most afterschool companies are looking for people in country with a visa to transfer. You'll get priority for a job if you can transfer your visa. Noble education (they usually advertise on worknplay) are a pretty decent afterschool company. If you have any further questions then send me a PM, I've had a lot of experience with this!
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Narconis



Joined: 29 Jul 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have a few friends with whom I can crash with...but overall this whole situation has made me very regretful for coming here....I just hope I can find another job quickly that ISN'T like the last piece of crap school...
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wallythewhale



Joined: 12 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Email Jon Pak of SMOE. Just a few days ago, he was looking for people to fill up 3 spots for SMOE.
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salgichawa



Joined: 18 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: I'm lost and jobless and have no idea what do to.... Reply with quote

Narconis wrote:
I've tried searching, and I didn't come up with anything that answered all of my questions, so I am sorry if this info is online...

Here is my situation. I was fired by my hagwon owner last night because he says the school hasn't been making any money. I've only been here 3 months so I do not have enough money to buy a plane ticket back to the states and he is refusing to purchase a flight for me. I have to be out of my apartment by monday. I have never had a complaint, never been late, never breached my contract once. I am trying to find another job quickly, but on such short notice over a weekend it hardly seems possible to find another job that will be similar to the one I lost. So basically I am going to be homeless, jobless, and in a foreign country...and I am pretty damn scared.

Do I have any legal rights to prevent myself from getting fired or at least getting a ticket back to the states?



Hi Narconis,

Never fear you are better off signing with a new job anyway, it will probably be better.

Take any recommendation and run with it. It's no problem unless you stay without any visa.

The new school can hep arrange the visa transfer. The letter of release is important.

PM me if you still are having trouble.
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Seoul'n'Corea



Joined: 06 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wallythewhale wrote:
Email Jon Pak of SMOE. Just a few days ago, he was looking for people to fill up 3 spots for SMOE.


He'd be the last person I'd contact. EVER!
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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?
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Narconis



Joined: 29 Jul 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...small victory I suppose. I tried talking to him about how unfair it was and that no man with even the smallest amount of honor would leave someone stranded like he is....even though he denied my demand for severance or a plane ticket home, I was able to get him to agree to letting me stay at the apartment until the end of the month. It's not even close to ideal...but it does give me a little more time. To be honest tho...I am still pretty freaked out about the situation and am petrified of having this happen again to me at another hagwon....plus I have all my stuff to move to the new job if I get it...I'm not sure how to move it...I sorta spent my first month on living expenses and my second month furnishing the apartment...
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Narconis wrote:
Well...small victory I suppose. I tried talking to him about how unfair it was and that no man with even the smallest amount of honor would leave someone stranded like he is....even though he denied my demand for severance or a plane ticket home, I was able to get him to agree to letting me stay at the apartment until the end of the month.

Good. Now breathe in. Breathe out. Sleep tonight. Tomorrow, you're going to have to hit the pavement and find somewhere else to work. Depending on where you are, this can be easy or hard. Once you've done that, you can get your old boss and your new boss together and have them work on getting your visa transferred to the new company.
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Kryten



Joined: 10 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: I'm lost and jobless and have no idea what do to.... Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Under labor law you are considered a probationary employee until you have completed six months.
UrbanMyth is right about this and they also don't need to give you any amount of notice.. unless it is written in your contract! Check to see if there is anything giving notice (30-days notice for example). If there is, then you're in luck and they need to follow this or pay you in lieu of 30 days notice.

You have 3 weeks to find a new job so you can relax a little bit. Don't worry about moving. Your new employer will help you hire a bongo moving truck who will do all the work and will cost less than 75,000 Won.
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