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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Why is this news? Reply with quote

http://bronx.ny1.com/content/top_stories/120391/claim--bronx-students-forced-to-clean-school-toilets

What is the problem here? Are they saying that the precious little children are too good to clean toilets? That only janitors are low enough to do that kind of demeaning work?

I honestly do not see the problem. Kids clean up here (maybe not the toilets, but the floor). Maybe they generally don't do a real bang-up job, but I think it is a good lesson for them, that they are responsible for their school. Not that the lesson is usually learned, as the kids still make a mess, but it is a lesson worth trying to teach.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People pay a lot of money (through taxes) to go to school. This is a failure by the school and school district on so many levels.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my punishments as a child for having a smart mouth (I know. Hard to believe, huh? Laughing) was to clean all 3 bathrooms top to bottom every Friday for a month. My mom came in every few minutes to check, and often stood above me pointing to a spot here or there to go over. It was crappy (slaps knee), but did teach me how to keep a bathroom sparkling (though I've let mine slide some, as I went on home leave, with my friend watching my apartment, then learned after I got back that I had to move) for my own home later on.

Cleaning a (basically) public bathroom, though? F no! Had my school ever attempted such a punishment, my mom would have been on them like white on rice. It's not the school's place to punish in such a way.

Janitors choose to work that kind of job.
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is BRitney Spears driving news?

Why is Michael Jackson spending habits news?

Why is anything involving Lilo news?

Theres a lot of crap out there that ain't news.

That being said, schools pay Janitors to clean the school, If you employ Janitors to clean the school, you should not get the student's to do the chores as punishment.

In Korean schools its about community and doing your part, responsibility for chores

Using cleaning toilets as a punishment for not doing homework is so missing the point it's not even funny.

CHildren are supposed to get an EDUCATION at the school. There are plenty of alternatives for "punishment" and taking responsibility a school setting.

getting a kid to clean toilets for a punishment is vindictive and the sihn of an uncarin and lazy administration/teacher.

It is not about "teachinG" the child anything its about saying "you're gonna do as I say or you can clean other peoples crap for a living"

Great message eh?
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Like that's not cool, like making kids clean toilets like that's not how that should go," said another student' hahah. Like, totally dude.

I only ever had to do lines like, once. I've pretty much never had any detention...I was a background kid though
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we're seeing the full story here.

Maybe the 'kids' messed up the toilets? Punishment should be unpleasant in certain circumstances.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the kids gripe about cleaning up the bathrooms they should be given toothbrushes to do the job. If they still gripe, bulldoze the bathrooms and put in an outhouse. That oughtta be fun during the winter months.

Sissy gripes like this are why people vote Republican.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why shouldn't it be news? I'm sure a lot of parents in the area would be interested in this information.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever happened to the paddle?
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
If the kids gripe about cleaning up the bathrooms they should be given toothbrushes to do the job. If they still gripe, bulldoze the bathrooms and put in an outhouse. That oughtta be fun during the winter months.

Sissy gripes like this are why people vote Republican.


Excellent and the republicans will be right there holding the hands of the families when children like this get so pissed off that they are being humiliated by (or in) an institution sworn to educate them that they walk into school with an uzi (his father is constitutionally allowed to have) and blow away over a dozen classmates.

Yeah not a big problem, nothing to concern ourselves with at all Smile
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Whatever happened to the paddle?


A wise man once said-

"Talking out of turn? That's a paddlin'. Lookin' out the window? That's a paddlin'. Staring at my sandals? That's a padddlin'. Paddlin' the school canoe? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgR0m-9FmM
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