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LL Moonmanhead
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Location: yo momma
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: Peak Oil |
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Who subscribes to this theory?
How long do we have left til the shit hits the fan?
How should one prepare for the time the shit hits the fan?
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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alice0216
Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Yangju
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:18 pm Post subject: peak oil |
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There is an interesting movie about that called Crude Awakenings, about the oil industry's manipulation of figures and price inflation.
Pretty scary stuff but I think governments are starting to figure out there is a lot less than they were originally told because many are starting to actually get serious about alt. fuels. It will be interesting to see what happens in the Middle East and Russia when the oil starts running low. Not sure what they're planning to base their economy and build their infrastructure on after that happens. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: peak oil |
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alice0216 wrote: |
There is an interesting movie about that called Crude Awakenings, about the oil industry's manipulation of figures and price inflation.
Pretty scary stuff but I think governments are starting to figure out there is a lot less than they were originally told because many are starting to actually get serious about alt. fuels. It will be interesting to see what happens in the Middle East and Russia when the oil starts running low. Not sure what they're planning to base their economy and build their infrastructure on after that happens. |
The US has been "serious" about alternative fuels since the Carter administration. It's a tremendous vote catcher. You get the greens without alienating anyone else.
Spain's foray into wind mills was an abject failure.
No amount of govt "getting serious" will solve the problem. They've had the better part of 40 years to fix the problem, but haven't.
Either normal people or businesses will find an answer, or they won't. Govt action NEVER will. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm kind of cool with the ensuing apocalyptic chaos of oil suddenly running out. I suppose it would be best to be somewhere that you are really interested in staying at for awhile...or with a lot of trees to build a galleon with! |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Peak oil postponed again:
In 1999, the known oil reserves in the world were over ten times what they were in 1950 (despite an enormous increase in the use of oil). Nobody in their right mind disagrees that oil is finite, nor that it's a good idea to make plans to wean ourselves off it. Nevertheless, there's a clear relationship between how much oil we extract and how much new technology can extract more oil at lower costs. |
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alice0216
Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Yangju
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: peak oil |
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Agreed that gov't have been largely unsuccessful thus far, but the private sector is only motivated when oil prices hit the roof or gov't provides a tax break, so I think there is a role for gov't to play. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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The government should commit more capital to energy research and development. At the moment, the amount being committed is paltry. This proves Stefanuto's Law: it is the nature of government activity to bring about very little benefit yet grossly under-fund things we actually need.
The price system is by far the most crucial thing. As the oil supply decreases, the corollary is rising prices (mind you, a few years ago when oil was over $100pb, that was to do with the weak dollar, so the price of oil has as much to do with the supply of fiat money as it does oil). With increasing prices comes greater incentive to find undiscovered oil and increased innovation. But what if the oil runs out? Isn't that the whole point? Well, yes, but the problem with that is that the dates given (for when oil will be completely consumed) are never correct. |
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