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Starting to get worried about North Korea, Emergency plan?
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Chucky



Joined: 21 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Starting to get worried about North Korea, Emergency plan? Reply with quote

I don't know about you all, but this situation with North Korea is starting to worry me a bit.

I never really cared too much about it, but all these recent developments with the Cheonan are really worrying. All my Korean friends and students are really worried about it too.

I'm not one to panic or worry about things. But I can totally see North Korea starting up an all out war. I just think it's a very real possibility.

Lots of people say "It'll never happen." But it definitely COULD HAPPEN.

If North Korea attacked, Japan, South Korea and the USA would destroy them, but not before Seoul gets shot with bombs, biological and chemical weapons and maybe a nuke.

Anyway, my question is. What is the emergency plan if something bad happens?

Run to the airport? Hide out at home for a few days? Can Americans seek refuge at the US military base? What's the plan?
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, relax.

Then, you need to contact the U.S. Embassy. They have a military evacuation plan. If you are an American, I believe you can join.

But, I would not expect things to get that serious around here, at least not yet. I think the South Korean government will go out of its way not to make Seoul a bomb site, after all most of them live there.
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Italy37612



Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not worried. Kim Jong Il just thought people weren't paying enough attention to him again; so he had to put his "look at me, look at me!" plan into action.
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isisaredead



Joined: 18 May 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italy37612 wrote:
I'm not worried. Kim Jong Il just thought people weren't paying enough attention to him again; so he had to put his "look at me, look at me!" plan into action.


exactly. is it that time of the month already? something happens almost every month here - albeit this time it was much more serious.
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Chucky



Joined: 21 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unposter wrote:
First of all, relax.

Then, you need to contact the U.S. Embassy. They have a military evacuation plan. If you are an American, I believe you can join.

But, I would not expect things to get that serious around here, at least not yet. I think the South Korean government will go out of its way not to make Seoul a bomb site, after all most of them live there.


I usually would agree with you and PROBABLY nothing bad will happen. But if some politician does something stupid (which happens all the time) they could spark it up. Wars happen all over the place all the time, and this could be the next one fo shizzle my nizzle.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, but i'm just being realistic instead of ignoring the situation. North Korea is in a position right now where they might do something.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If North Korea attacked, Japan, South Korea and the USA would destroy them


And that's why its highly unlikely KJI will attack. He knows he'll totally lose any kind of war and that the communist party would likely collapse. Why would he go down that road?

All the world politicians who have met him have said that he's a very rational and intelligent man.

I'm not worried. I think the NK powers-that-be like the status quo the way it is.
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Chucky



Joined: 21 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
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If North Korea attacked, Japan, South Korea and the USA would destroy them


And that's why its highly unlikely KJI will attack. He knows he'll totally lose any kind of war and that the communist party would likely collapse. Why would he go down that road?

All the world politicians who have met him have said that he's a very rational and intelligent man.

I'm not worried. I think the NK powers-that-be like the status quo the way it is.


Probably true. But in the past few decades we have seen lots of wars spark up unexpectedly.

Even if North Korea doesn't attack, maybe someone else will attack them? Lot's of people are saying that the sinking of the Cheonan might be used as a reason to invade the North, similr to the way 9/11 was used as an excuse for the US to tear it up in the Middle East.

Chances are nothing will happen and things will keep going as they are, but it's getting pretty heated right now.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About March last year, NK threatened to shoot down commerical airplanes and people were also worried about what was going to happen.

So while it seems like a regular occurance, I love these threads because all the resident paranoid nutjobs come out and give detailed fantasies of how they are going to find M16s just laying around and go all Rambo on invading soldiers. Laughing
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Beyond



Joined: 04 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah tbh at first I wondered if the US was behind this attack. I don't believe it, but just saying...

I feel bad for China's peculiar position.
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Chucky



Joined: 21 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
About March last year, NK threatened to shoot down commerical airplanes and people were also worried about what was going to happen.

So while it seems like a regular occurance, I love these threads because all the resident paranoid nutjobs come out and give detailed fantasies of how they are going to find M16s just laying around and go all Rambo on invading soldiers. Laughing


I would probably just get the F outta the country actually.

You never know what will happen. Anything is possible. Maybe the US will decide to invade them and make them the 51st state?
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not expecting real trouble. But if things did really fall apart, I suppose I would try to get to Busan and then take a ferry to Japan, as flights would be impossible. But I'm not stockpiling cans of soup yet.

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Then, you need to contact the U.S. Embassy. They have a military evacuation plan. If you are an American, I believe you can join.

I think I'd lie about being American! I can imagine what the Canadian embassy would do. I'd have to wait until the next Tuesday morning from 9 to 11 AM when they're open, and then a computerized voice would tell me "I'm sorry, we don't offer that service."
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things you can do to be on the safe side:

1. Register with your country's Embassy in Seoul. For U.S. citizens:
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Register your stay in Korea through the State Department�s secure online travel registration website at: https://travelregistration.state.gov so that we know you are here and how to contact you or your family in case of emergency.

http://seoul.usembassy.gov/american_citizen_services.html <<you can sign up for email and text msg alerts here too

2. Get your credit card paid down in case you have to get to the airport and buy a ticket home.
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Chucky



Joined: 21 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korea is starting trade restrictions with the North and starting to make threats.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/23/skorea.ship/index.html?hpt=T1

Get ready for war. Buy some Rambo knives and tents and stuff.
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thomas pars



Joined: 29 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you guys serious?!?

If a war broke out, do you think you would even have a chance?

Where do you think ESL teachers rank on the hierarchy of foreigners in
Korea? I am guessing dead last.

Do you even think the embassy would help you?

All travel in and out would be impossible! If you were unlucky enough to be here when it did go down you'd pretty much be stuck.

My advice, have a large amount of US currency readily available as
there would more than likely be a run on the banks.
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOLVERINES!!

(Red Dawn rocks!)

Except here's the thing... The Norks have no way to get their army through the DMZ in a timely manner... It just isn't going to happen between the landmines, the geography, and the traps/security measures/etc that the RoK/US forces have in place along the border...

If war were to break out this minute (and if the Norks were stupid enough to follow the whole "bomb the hell out of Seoul" routine that everyone here seems to think they will) it would be shells raining on Seoul and surrounding area, and in three or four days when the US can get their carrier groups in place the Nork military would be bombed into last century... So get yourself on a mountain with some food/water/warm clothes and you'll be fine...

If war were to break out this minute (and if the Norks were smart about it) they would have commando teams in place to destroy every bridge along the Han in Seoul, they would take command of the airport at Incheon, and aim their artillery at the RoK/US air force bases to destroy as many of their planes as possible on the ground... Seoul would not be bombed/gased/etc. because that would make any Nork attempt at reunification almost impossible, as well as kill many of the forced labour pool that they would need to make the invasion sustainable...
In other words, there is no military gain in destroying Seoul...

But hey, maybe the Norks are that stupid? Wink
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