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[defaultusername]

Yeah, I've searched the threads before but found nothing substantial.

I do not understand this form at all and the instructions that come along with it are pretty much worthless.

Can someone help with box by box instructions? (I have no clues about Taxpayer ID #'s, Appointee Information, etc.) I'm sure the whole community would benefit by this.

Also, must I have the 6166 certificate upon arrival? Or will the IRS mail the form to Korea?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

[manimal]

Okay, continued on down my search list for "8802." This thread answered the questions I had typed below before going on.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=185469&highlight=8802




I'd like to know about this too. From what my recruiter has told me, I can turn the form in later (I start next week, so I'm going to have to have it mailed). My plan was to have the folks mail it to me.

In the EPIK contract, it states that taxes won't be taken out if the form is given to the employer before the first paycheck...so I'm hoping it won't be a problem if it doesn't get to me sooner than that.

My biggest question right now is on line seven--years of residence for which I am requesting certification. According to the instructions, I can't request years that haven't had returns filed--so 2009 is the latest we can get. So, is certification of US residence sufficient for the public school and Korean tax service when I am submitting regarding employment for 2010/2011?

[isitts]

I think the instructions for 8802 explain how to go about requesting for years that have not been completed yet (2010 is not finished yet).

In that link you posted above, Naturegirl explains that exception on page 3 or 4.

[isitts]

[CSlinguist]

I had alot of trouble with this form too. If you just call the IRS number on the website they will go through it with you step by step. Warning though, I called around 7pm and was on hold for like 30 minutes cuz they transfered me to the wrong department -_-

But your tax id number is just your SSN and you don't have an appointee cuz you're filling the form out yourself. Also if you are gonna pay online make sure you do that before sending out the form because you have to put a confirmation number on line 2 (Once you do the online payment it gives you two numbers, neither of which are called a confirmation number and you can put either number on line 2... that took me forever to figure out)

[eljuero]

I just called the IRS on Friday. FYI, they are just processing the forms received at the end of June.....patience is needed I guess.

A lot of schools, mine included, will give you the benefit of the doubt and withhold taxes if you're new to Korea......you might ask and then file later for the forms.

[isitts]

If they gave you the benefit of the doubt, then they would not withhold taxes because they would presume you'll get the residency certificate and only be taxable in the US. My school did not withhold taxes.

[isitts]

Unless you want to use a loophole and not get taxed in either country, I wouldn't file for the residency certificate because the tax rate here is less. It's better to owe taxes in Korea than the US. If you get the certificate, then what you earn here is taxable in the US (because presumably, you cannot file the 2555 and still get the residency certificate).

[eljuero]

[isitts]

If you get the certificate it means you're not taxable in Korea. So, they'll have to give you that money back.

[eljuero]

[isitts]

[isitts]

Did you mean that they're postponing filing your taxes here, waiting for your certificate? That I can see as a benefit of doubt. My school's doing that, too.

Maybe this is a symantic misunderstanding.

[eljuero]

[shostahoosier]

If it makes you feel any better I applied back in APRIL and I still havent gotten my form yet and I'm starting my 2nd year here in Korea soon.

The people at the IRS claimed that my submission was missing a signature...but the copy that I have shows the signature was definitely there

They called me to let me know this in JUNE (they are backlogged apparently)! On top of that...they have sent me about 4 or 5 letters (the same form letter) to let me know that they recieved my application and are processing it. These letters come straight to Korea and are a huge waste of paper!

This document is a pain. My school has been lenient with me, but told me that I need to have the document in hand by September or they will start to charge me Korean taxes.