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improving the fluency of an advanced speaker

 
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0ju



Joined: 30 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: improving the fluency of an advanced speaker Reply with quote

I have a student who has a problem with repeating words and using too many "filler" noises (ah, um, etc.). Any ideas for exercises on how to correct this?
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singerdude



Joined: 18 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a public speaking class on TV and their suggestion was to have the students pause and not say anything, whenever they have to think of a new idea. They were pretty strict about it and after some time, those students weren't doing it at all, and sounded much more natural. I would try that.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd send them to http://englishcentral.com Down the road, they will also have some specific tools to help this, stay tuned.

Further, sign up as a teacher and invite, track your students as a class. Great way to give homework Smile http://englishcentral.com/en/teachers

DD
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely record them and force them to listen to themselves talking
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep a spray bottle handy and squirt em every time they do it.
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0ju



Joined: 30 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkcity wrote:
keep a spray bottle handy and squirt em every time they do it.


ugh i'd be squirting him like every two seconds. i tried to get him to pause for 5 seconds before speaking but he gets all excited and forgets, i think.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Count them. That's what my Public Speaking Prof did in College. He would take off points for each one.

Active Listening is the trick, it's a lifelong skill. Consult your favorite Google.
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kimchikowboy



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
I'd send them to http://englishcentral.com Down the road, they will also have some specific tools to help this, stay tuned.

Further, sign up as a teacher and invite, track your students as a class. Great way to give homework Smile http://englishcentral.com/en/teachers

DD
http://eflclassroom.com


Thanks. I think I can use that for presentation classes. What other hidden gems can you suggest?
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks. I think I can use that for presentation classes. What other hidden gems can you suggest?


LoL - Yes, I'm in the gem business! Got to make that my new motto.

I helped them set up the teacher's area and gave initial advice to get them started. Lots more soon. But they are a great group (and "get it" - that's why google has the majority share in them) and I want teachers to push their students to use.

Well - if I had to say just two things (one is too limiting). I'd suggest http://voicethread.com students have a hard time talking in class (Asian student I mean, I used to teach a class of Argentinians and I still suffer from the headaches and tylenol). I have loads of examples but it really is revolutionary from a language teacher's perspective. Load up a photo and tell your students to speak online about it. Assess them at your leisure with a pilsner at hand.

I'll also suggest, because I'm a big fan (but not cultist) of ER, extensive reading. http://tarheelreader.org I'm big into speech recognition and Gary's site for the reading disabled is perfect for second language students (and in my vocabulary, every second language student is disabled - in the sense that the brain is overloaded and doesn't work in its natural fashion. ).

So there you go , two more gems. Now back to setting up an ubuntu server so that teachers all over the world will have free teaching conference rooms. Stay tuned. This is possible with very little outlay.

DD
http://eflclassroom.com
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