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oops! Did I just a commit a Korean social faux pas?
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Ralphie



Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Beijing, PRC

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:23 am    Post subject: oops! Did I just a commit a Korean social faux pas? Reply with quote

HI! I was wondering if someone - who is in the "know" about Korean manners - could verify that I did something wrong. We had a staff dinner tonight and hot soup was placed on my right-hand side, bowl of rice on my left. I moved the soup to my left, because it was easier to eat. In an instant, a coworker moved it back to my right. What happened? If it clarifies things a little, my boss was sitting on my left. Confused
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's such a big deal(to them, at least)-more of a "this is how we do it" type of thing. But to me it used to be a big deal-having someone moving my plates and bowls around. Man, that would irritate me. One guy was even trying to show me how to hold my soup spoon. Can't a guy eat in peace?
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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: oops! Did I just a commit a Korean social faux pas? Reply with quote

Ralphie wrote:
HI! I was wondering if someone - who is in the "know" about Korean manners - could verify that I did something wrong. We had a staff dinner tonight and hot soup was placed on my right-hand side, bowl of rice on my left. I moved the soup to my left, because it was easier to eat. In an instant, a coworker moved it back to my right. What happened? If it clarifies things a little, my boss was sitting on my left. Confused


Were you guys sitting in a row tightly to each other? And on which side of you was this 'impolite' colleague of yours?
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CrikeyKorea



Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Location: Heogi, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like if a korean picked up a fork with his right hand a knife with their left, some people would probably tell them not to, some wouldn't care.

I did get pulled up on the moving of the bowl the other day by our new cleaning ajumma at our office who is a stickler for the rules, she told me that i shouldnt drink a juice popper at the table because there was soup for drinking too... that was kinda funny[/quote]
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know if that was a faux paus or not but it shouldn't really matter since you're the foreign teacher.

i just wanted to say eating with korean teachers suck because they usually almost always choose a restaurant where you have to sit on the floor.
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cragesmure



Joined: 23 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:
I don't think it's such a big deal(to them, at least)-more of a "this is how we do it" type of thing. But to me it used to be a big deal-having someone moving my plates and bowls around. Man, that would irritate me. One guy was even trying to show me how to hold my soup spoon. Can't a guy eat in peace?


This is correct. I was once eating alone in the uni cafeteria, and a student of mine who was walking by said "hi", smiled and then rotated my slop tray 180 degrees for me. Apparently I had it backwards and it's much better to have my sleeve in my soup.
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treehouse



Joined: 17 Jul 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for the social faux pas thing, Koreans usually eat with the rice on the left side. It's similar to the way we have etiquette "standards" as we arrange our tableware in a certain way. Similarly, Koreans eat with the rice on the left side.

If you're worried about committing another mealtime mistake, don't stab your chopsticks into your rice bowl and leave them there. Smile
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Ralphie



Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Beijing, PRC

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: oops! Did I just a commit a Korean social faux pas? Reply with quote

Jake_Kim wrote:
Were you guys sitting in a row tightly to each other? And on which side of you was this 'impolite' colleague of yours?


Yes, we were sitting in a row. My boss sat on my left. The colleague was on my right at the end of the table. There was plenty of room; we weren't sqeezed in.


machoman wrote:
i just wanted to say eating with korean teachers suck because they usually almost always choose a restaurant where you have to sit on the floor.


Exactly! And when they want something from you, they pick a Western restaurant, like Italian, with chairs.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed rice is always served on the left side of the soup. I always move it to the right. A lot of the time, that soup bowl is searing hot (thus the boiling soup). Since I'm right-handed, like most of the world, it's pretty easy to burn myself when I'm eating out of the rice bowl on the left.
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd move it right back and tell him to keep his hands off my food.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WadRUG'naDoo wrote:
I'd move it right back and tell him to keep his hands off my food.


Yep. You arrange your food the way you want. Politely say that's how you like it......Koreans can be a bit fascist about their food.......like, it can only be eaten their way.

I give the ajumma in my school cafeteria a minor heart attack every time I put the rice in the tray compartment that's not usually used for rice....or if I refuse the soup.....what??!! A meal without soup??? How? What? Why?

I think she's mostly confused because I'm refusing something that doesn't cost any extra money. Like, why on earth would someone refuse something that is essentially free????
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seirogan



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is just a matter of ettiquette based on superstition. When food is placed for a ceremony for a deceased person the soup is placed to the left instead of the right. It is like sticking your chopsticks straight up and down in your rice or passing food from one persons chopsticks to another. Do that in front of a Korean person and you will get corrected too.

It is like when a student sneezes and I say "bless you." It has no meaning to them but it is ettiquette for us from a superstition.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it comes to manners;
(1) some manners make sense (hygene),
(2) but some manners are pure arbitrary BS!
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: oops! Did I just a commit a Korean social faux pas? Reply with quote

Ralphie wrote:
HI! I was wondering if someone - who is in the "know" about Korean manners - could verify that I did something wrong. We had a staff dinner tonight and hot soup was placed on my right-hand side, bowl of rice on my left. I moved the soup to my left, because it was easier to eat. In an instant, a coworker moved it back to my right. What happened? If it clarifies things a little, my boss was sitting on my left. Confused



Next time, ask said coworker where the free onions, ketchup and mustard are. Smile
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Ralphie



Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Beijing, PRC

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone who is interested, here is a straightforward intro to Korean etiquette (see Table Manners): http://www.lifeinkorea.com/food/f-manners.cfm
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