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orbison



Joined: 27 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:29 pm    Post subject: University of Suwon Reply with quote

A couple of quick questions for past and present teachers.

Does the University permit adding an extra place of employment, so allowing teachers to work on one of their days off? (It advertises that classes are spread over four days)

Secondly, do they provide key money?

Cheers
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Gideon



Joined: 24 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: University of Suwon Reply with quote

orbison wrote:
A couple of quick questions for past and present teachers.

Does the University permit adding an extra place of employment, so allowing teachers to work on one of their days off? (It advertises that classes are spread over four days)

Secondly, do they provide key money?

Cheers


Run for the hills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thetym



Joined: 06 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gideon,

Can you explain?
Thanks!
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noobteacher



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the answers to your specific questions, but one of the main turn-offs about Suwon is that they require their foreign teachers to teach summer and winter camps (basically 30-40 hours a week for multiple weeks) for no extra money. If that is any indication of what they expect their instructors to do, I would agree with Gideon and say run and never look back.
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Kimchifart



Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobteacher wrote:
I don't know about the answers to your specific questions, but one of the main turn-offs about Suwon is that they require their foreign teachers to teach summer and winter camps (basically 30-40 hours a week for multiple weeks) for no extra money. If that is any indication of what they expect their instructors to do, I would agree with Gideon and say run and never look back.



If that's the case OP seriously, run for the hills.
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hannibal329



Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:37 am    Post subject: more info? Reply with quote

I had an interview there a couple weeks ago and I'm still waiting for their repsonse. Messaged me last week that they were still interviewing candidates and checking on my qualifications and will get back to me in a couple days. Just out of curiosity, aside from that ridiculous summer and winter camps, what's the rest of the job/work load like? 12 hours a week over 4 days sounds pretty nice, even if you have to do 6 brutal weeks a year. Would like some more insite into the school instead of 'run for the hillssssss!' commentary.
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diddymao



Joined: 29 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I interviewed with them and was offered a position on the spot. The contract specifies only a housing allowance and no key money. I was told that I would have to figure out housing on my own. I got a better contract with housing and with a higher salary. But, if you have a way of finding housing on your own then this isn't that bad.
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hannibal329



Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: diddymao Reply with quote

When did you interview? I'm not real confident they'd even offer me the job, however, at this point I figured I'd hear from them if they were not at least little interested in me. What are you qualifications? I'm still working on my masters degree and have been teaching now for 4 years, so I'm 'on the bubble' I guess. It's a little off putting that you were offered the job on the spot and I've had to wait, but, if your highly qualified, makes complete sense.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second Gideon. Run for the hills!!!!!!!!! You dont want to work at Suwon University.
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diddymao



Joined: 29 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: diddymao Reply with quote

hannibal329 wrote:
When did you interview? I'm not real confident they'd even offer me the job, however, at this point I figured I'd hear from them if they were not at least little interested in me. What are you qualifications? I'm still working on my masters degree and have been teaching now for 4 years, so I'm 'on the bubble' I guess. It's a little off putting that you were offered the job on the spot and I've had to wait, but, if your highly qualified, makes complete sense.


I interviewed a while ago. I believe I have excellent qualifications. If you are still working on your masters degree I would suggest you list on your resume as a Masters Degree candidate or simply state that your Masters Degree is "in-progress" so they know you are working on it. Also list out any relevant courses you have taken that are applicable. This school was looking to hire many individuals. The contract, however, is for an E-2 not an E-1 visa.
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hannibal329



Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: just got offered a position Reply with quote

They just offered me a position, but only gave me 2 days to respond back to them. Would love some advice from anyone who's currently working there if possible. I'm not qualified really for any other Uni positions, so this could possibly open up something better for me in the following year until I finish my Masters program. Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated.
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They just offered me a position, but only gave me 2 days to respond back to them.

Gosh, I can't imagine why this would be?

Quote:
I'm not qualified really for any other Uni positions

Oooh, well, that would make things clearer.

If you actually take this job you are handing them an engraved invitation to screw you up, down, backwards, forwards, in the mirror and while eating Christmas dinner.

But, yes, ignore everything that's been posted already. They're just offering you a 'good' job you aren't qualified to take because, you know, there's such a shortage of qualified people out there looking for Uni jobs. I look forward to your desperate posting in about 3 months begging for advice on how to escape whatever hellish environment they have waiting for you.
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hannibal329



Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:47 pm    Post subject: modernist Reply with quote

Actually, I have an F-2 visa, which means I will have no issues trying to escape any job that isn't worth my time and effort. I'm not asking for people's opinions about a job they've never actually worked at and are just spewing more negativity. Posting comments like 'RUN FOR THE HILLSSSSSS' is not helpful or constructive in any way, shape, or form. I AM asking for anyone who has ACTUALLY worked at the University of Suwon and has some valuable, viable, legitimate information that they're willing to share about the work conditions. The people I met there seemed very enjoyable and pleasant to be around (both korean and foreign), and the head of the department has only been at the school for 1 semester and I'm curious to know if she's cleaning up some of the negative things I've heard about the job.
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diddymao



Joined: 29 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: modernist Reply with quote

hannibal329 wrote:
Actually, I have an F-2 visa, which means I will have no issues trying to escape any job that isn't worth my time and effort. I'm not asking for people's opinions about a job they've never actually worked at and are just spewing more negativity. Posting comments like 'RUN FOR THE HILLSSSSSS' is not helpful or constructive in any way, shape, or form. I AM asking for anyone who has ACTUALLY worked at the University of Suwon and has some valuable, viable, legitimate information that they're willing to share about the work conditions. The people I met there seemed very enjoyable and pleasant to be around (both korean and foreign), and the head of the department has only been at the school for 1 semester and I'm curious to know if she's cleaning up some of the negative things I've heard about the job.



The number one thing university selection committees look for besides a Masters Degree is experience teaching at the university level. This job will give you that experience. And soon you will have both your Masters Degree and that experience. Disregard the naysayers and the soothsayers.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rummor has it that at least ten senior members of staff have desided to resign, because of the current dean, and five weeks of camp per semester.
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