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Swampfox10mm
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Funny- the shooting incident guy was definitely not a soldier.
And funny how they suggest an increased military presence as opposed to a police presence... |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The link stated that this plan is the result of two incidents. Two. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| The link stated that this plan is the result of two incidents. Two. |
Why after two incidents do we need military patrolling city streets? Why? |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| We don't. Anyway, the Courtesy Patrol is patrolling the military, not the general population. Also, as another poster mentioned, perhaps an increased civilian police presence might be a better idea. |
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TECO
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| So what police powers do they have in Itaewon? Never see them out patrolling in Japan, just Itaewon. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| TECO wrote: |
| So what police powers do they have in Itaewon? Never see them out patrolling in Japan, just Itaewon. |
Those aren't courtesy patrols in Itaeweon, IIRC. They're military police. The MPs have zero police powers over civilians; however, they can arrest members of the US military. |
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| TECO wrote: |
| So what police powers do they have in Itaewon? Never see them out patrolling in Japan, just Itaewon. |
Those aren't courtesy patrols in Itaeweon, IIRC. They're military police. The MPs have zero police powers over civilians; however, they can arrest members of the US military. |
I hung out with an MP a few times, and IIRC, they aren't allowed to actually touch anybody, even US military. If they need to arrest military they call in some Korean police. I may be mistaken though. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| So what is the difference between Courtesy Patrol and MP's? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| We don't. Anyway, the Courtesy Patrol is patrolling the military, not the general population. |
Right, this is key. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| So what is the difference between Courtesy Patrol and MP's? |
Courtesy Patrol are there to advise soldiers not to go to Juicy bars or bars deemed off limits due to prostitution.
MP deal with all other problems AWOL |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| So what is the difference between Courtesy Patrol and MP's? |
Military Police are Service members who are assigned as police officers with jurisdiction over military personnel and also jurisdiction on military reservations. Military Police can affect an arrest of personnel under their jurisdiction.
A Courtesy Patrol (or Shore Patrol as the Navy terms it) is composed of Service members who are assigned to promote good order and discipline among the military community both on- and off-base.
Neither the Military Police nor Courtesy Patrol has jurisdiction over civilians off-base. For example, say I'm in Itaeweon and a uniformed MP or CP requests I show them ID. They have no authority over me and thus no recourse if I refuse. |
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