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How much should I expect for Adult Hagwon part time?

 
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: How much should I expect for Adult Hagwon part time? Reply with quote

If I teach two classes at night, what should I request? at least 40,000?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you teaching additional classes at the same hakwon at which you are employed, or are you being loaned out to another place? I mean, are these OT classes at your school, or is this a side job?

For OT, 20k/hr is within the range of what I have heard to be common, and while lower than I would personally work for, it isn't necessarily insulting.

If it is a side job, I would say that 20k is too low, after you consider travel time.

I may also prioritize my free time differently than you, so what I find unacceptable may differ. I have had no debt to pay off for over a decade, but when I DID owe folks money, I took ALL the OT and side jobs I could find, regardless...if you need/want money, 20k/hr is a LOT more than 0k/hr for no OT....
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
Are you teaching additional classes at the same hakwon at which you are employed, or are you being loaned out to another place? I mean, are these OT classes at your school, or is this a side job?

For OT, 20k/hr is within the range of what I have heard to be common, and while lower than I would personally work for, it isn't necessarily insulting.

If it is a side job, I would say that 20k is too low, after you consider travel time.

I may also prioritize my free time differently than you, so what I find unacceptable may differ. I have had no debt to pay off for over a decade, but when I DID owe folks money, I took ALL the OT and side jobs I could find, regardless...if you need/want money, 20k/hr is a LOT more than 0k/hr for no OT....


It is a side job. I don't work there yet, and it's possible I may go and work there full-time so I dont want to burn a bridge by turning down their offer they want to pay me per class. But for 2 classes/hours out of my evening, I believe 40,000 is the bare minimum I would be willing to take.
Something tells me she will offer less than that though.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radius wrote:
thegadfly wrote:
Are you teaching additional classes at the same hakwon at which you are employed, or are you being loaned out to another place? I mean, are these OT classes at your school, or is this a side job?

For OT, 20k/hr is within the range of what I have heard to be common, and while lower than I would personally work for, it isn't necessarily insulting.

If it is a side job, I would say that 20k is too low, after you consider travel time.

I may also prioritize my free time differently than you, so what I find unacceptable may differ. I have had no debt to pay off for over a decade, but when I DID owe folks money, I took ALL the OT and side jobs I could find, regardless...if you need/want money, 20k/hr is a LOT more than 0k/hr for no OT....


It is a side job. I don't work there yet, and it's possible I may go and work there full-time so I dont want to burn a bridge by turning down their offer they want to pay me per class. But for 2 classes/hours out of my evening, I believe 40,000 is the bare minimum I would be willing to take.
Something tells me she will offer less than that though.


Extra evening work at a different job (assuming you have to travel there, prep (at some point in time) and return) would be worth a MINIMUM of 30k per hour (40-50 is more within the realm of reason).

Your regular job pays 20k (or more) per extra class and they supply you with all the benefits (part of your remuneration package) that your "extra job" isn't supplying.

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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks you guys for your advice.

I have no idea what to expect tomorrow teaching adults. Will we have a book or do I have to come up with topics myself? The only thing I dread is it turning into an hour long monologue. Shocked
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These days 20K per hour is pretty low - although I have seen ads with as little as 10K for overtime hours ...

Maybe you want to negotiate and get a 5000 meal bonus or a subway fare added on.

For first lessons with adults, just do getting-to-know-you questions/interviews. Get the students to ask questions about yourself, too. That can burn up about 45 mins, then you just need a 15 min filler activity on top. That way you can find out the level of these students, THEN decide on what book/lessons are necessary (if you have a choice).
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bobrocket



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I charge 2.5m per month for 1 job, 2 hours working plus travel, I spend an hour each way, walk + subway + walk + bus + walk, so 4 hours each day.
Basically just under 30k per hour, I did negotiate the rate taking into account half the time is spent listening to tunes.
Another job is 200k for 4 hours, the first pays for travel time and the second just pays.
No perks though, I have my own place so I take into account my expenses when taking a job.
Some jobs offer less because it's cash and there's lots of people that will take it but 40-50k seems to be the going rate, the people that take less (not ot) are probably doing it on the sly.
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