Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

How long of a grace period does a newbie usually have?
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
BackRow



Joined: 28 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: How long of a grace period does a newbie usually have? Reply with quote

Just started teaching at a hagwon, and trying to figure out where the kids are at in their textbooks and what is expected of me has been a real trial as I really haven't been told anything or given any real direction except be encouraged to give homework and journals constantly so parents think they're getting their money's worth.

I really think I'm doing terrible sofar, and although I plan to work hard during and after work hours to improve and get a grip on things I'm worried I may be in a "to little, too late, bye" situation, and be at the airport within a month.

So the question is, typically how long on average does a new hagwon teacher have to "coast" before management begins to really raise expectations? As a note, I've been teaching less than a week now.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1- You have been teaching less than a week

OK, take a deep breath and consider that: less than a week. Thats nothing so give yourself a break here and allow yourself time to catch your breath.

2- Ask your co-workers for advice.

They can help you out, teach you the ropes (you must be willing to learn however).

3- READ UP

Go online and find some ESL-TEFL resource sites that have acitivities, techniques and so on....and read up.

4- Look ahead and plan to a degree

That means pick up your curriculum, read through out and figure out whats ahead in terms of lessons and jot down a basic session plan. Then get some of those activities you found through your research (see point 3) and plug those in.

If this is your first contact with teaching it will be hard. Teaching (done properly) is not easy. For many its a very sharp learning curve and the biggest problem most newbies face is the lack of classroom management skills (ie how to plan a lesson and keep the students interested and under control).

Good luck.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
typically how long on average does a new hagwon teacher have to "coast" before management begins to really raise expectations?


You are not in high school anymore.

If you think like that, you will surely be taken advantage of. If you are new, you need one year to observe classes, see resources available, and copy/deliver existing lessons. During your second year, you adjust these lessons to fit the school you are teaching at. Some will be based on a chalkboard or whiteboard with markers. Others will prefer you speaking over writing. Then, after two years of teaching or a bit earlier, you will be faced with this problem you bring up.

By then, you will have a base of knowledge and be able to decide the direction you want to go, not the direction the school wants you to go. If what you are teaching is not what the school wants, then there isn't a match and you need to find a school which will allow you to teach what you want.

Look up activities, games, and drills.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hogwon management can be unpredictable. They might never really care what's going on in your classroom as long as too many students aren't dropping out, they might already be planning to fire you. It's hard to tell. If you have any foreign co-workers, ask them.

As far as the kids go, however, your grace period is the first day. That's when you set expectations for what you will and will not tolerate in the classroom. They'll start testing your boundaries right away. You say you think you're doing "terrible" in the class, so I have a feeling that's already started. Since no one sat you down and told you what the school expected, this isn't entirely your fault. Even a veteran teacher can have problems running a class when the school's own expectations aren't clear.

Patrick's advice is good. Read up. There's a lot of great activity and classroom management ideas out there on the net. I also recommend The First Days of School by Harry Wong, a really good book about classroom management. It's geared towards elementary school teachers in the states, but there's a lot that's helpful for hogwon teachers as well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
I also recommend The First Days of School by Harry Wong, a really good book about classroom management. It's geared towards elementary school teachers in the states, but there's a lot that's helpful for hogwon teachers as well.


Anyone that wants to buy this book from me, I'm selling it for 10,000 won. I agree: it's a good read and I learned a lot from it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long?
They want good results from the get-go.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
How long?
They want good results from the get-go.


+1

Any misstep on your part can result in immediate dismissal. Perhaps "any" is misleading, but you never know what they are thinking.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
Zackback wrote:
How long?
They want good results from the get-go.


+1

Any misstep on your part can result in immediate dismissal. Perhaps "any" is misleading, but you never know what they are thinking.


Yeah, I know a guy who got 30 days notice after teaching for less than a week.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cincynate



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave some writing on the white board for the director to see. Give the kids some candy. Give them lots of homework. They will like you for the candy, the parents will like you for the home work, the boss will love you. Easy as pie!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cincynate wrote:
Leave some writing on the white board for the director to see. Give the kids some candy. Give them lots of homework. They will like you for the candy, the parents will like you for the home work, the boss will love you. Easy as pie!


Or do some research, improve your teaching skills and learn something out of the deal instead of becoming yet another bingo playing, candy giving stiff who just occupies space in the classroom instead of teaching.

To each his own.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to be there was a pronounced honeymoon for floundering newbs but as kids & bosses grow more accustomed to a steady succession of foreign teachers there might be less patience nowadays.

But the perception of some genuine effort will still outweigh a few initial missteps.